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Re: [not sure if OT] empty DVD menus with k9copy and devede



On Thursday 10 May 2012 11:22:08 Camaleón wrote:
> On Wed, 09 May 2012 19:33:07 -0400, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 May 2012 12:45:41 Camaleón wrote:
> (...)
> 
> >> > Only later I realized that all my DVDs, which I "produced" since
> >> > then, using devede and k9copy have empty menus. That means: the
> >> > menufile plays in a way that I can see the progess-bar e.g. in
> >> > Kaffeine but the menu does not show up so I can't chose a video nor
> >> > can I make use of those DVDs on an ordinary DVD- player.
> >> 
> >> (...)
> >> 
> >> This is just an idea... To discard a problem coming from your backed /
> >> home profile, try by launching the mentioned programs from a fresh new
> >> user account to check if you are still getting the same behaviour.
> > 
[snip] KDE profile ruled out.
> 
> Then maybe is that something have changed in between. I mean, are you
> using the same versions of "k9copy" and "devede" that you were using
> before you reinstalled the system? :-?
No, I'm not running the same version of devede, but running the same version 
of k9copy.

devede 3.21.0 was last updated on Apr 30 - that was AFTER the problem already 
appeared. That means the old version was still installed when the problem 
reared its ugly head. That's why I suspect libraries or "helper"-programs.

k9copy 2.3.8-3 was updated Mar 14 - BEFORE the problem appeared.
That means that k9copy 2.3.8-3 was working perfectly until something else was 
upgraded.
Again that's why I suspect libraries or "helper"-programs.
> 
> > Right now I'm trying on another box with the same Wheezy installation.
> > If it works there, I shall have something to work on and to analyze the
> > differences.
> 
> Yes, good point. Regardless the result at least you'll can grab some
> conclusions.
Unfortunately the problem is the same on the other box. That lets me conclude 
that the problem started with an update after Apr 24 but before Apr 30.

dvdauthor had not been upgraded during this time.
libxml2, mencoder, libav* (ffmpeg libraries) have been upgraded.
Downgrading libxml2 does not change the behaviour.
I out-ruled libc6 too.

> >> > Which program are both k9copy and devede using to produce the
> >> > menu-file. Isn't it dvdauthor?
> >> 
> >> Well, both "k9copy" and "devede" require "dvdauthor" to be installed
> >> (at least that's so for D-M packages) so I guess yes.
> > 
> > Weird, because dvdauthor has not been updated around that time. (???) It
> > is still the same version as before the harddisk swap.
> 
> Well, "dvdauthor" is one of the pieces of the chain but the problem can
> be located elsehwere (e.g., "deveve" can be generating bad/corrupted
> projects that render the menus unusuable).
Yep, but what about k9copy going bad at the same time?
They both share
dvdauthor which uses libxml2
libavcodec53
libavformat53
libavutil51
mencoder

With mencoder and libavcodec, libavformat and the whole ffmpeg caboodle I'm 
running into serious dependency-problems when downgrading. devede complains 
about not finding mencoder when mencoder_1 is force-depends-installed.
So: no luck.

What puzzles me is that I got the problem on two very different boxes 
(hardware-wise) and nobody else seems to have these problems.

I'm afraid I'm hitting a stonewall here and am seriously thinking about 
installing Squeeze on one of the boxes.

Thanks for your suggestions and concern.
Eike


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