Re: Debian Stole My Name!
Hal Vaughan wrote:
> But I've learned, the hard way, NEVER file a bug report in a FOSS
> project. I have several times and have yet to find one where the
> developers were appreciative of the bug report. I'll go even farther:
> In most cases they've been outright hostile and I've had times where
> they've "told me off" to justify closing the bug.
My experience with Debian developers, though limited, has been quite
The first time I ever got to know about newsgroups was around eight or
ten years ago. In those days, I frequented the linux newsgroups a lot.
The attitude you describe above is quite popular over, especially with
the gurus. In those 'gurus' view, anybody who does not know things that
are "so obvious to them" is a worthless life draining away the planet's
resources. I am sure the attitude still remains in many newsgroup users.
There is no sense of social etiquette, no sense of politeness or being
courteous -- in fact, many of those people believe these are unnecessary
traits. They are right, but only if you wish to think like a machine ...
which they try to because they are all so fond of science fiction that
they think of it something bigger than life and actually want to get
absorbed in it and perhaps imagine themselves to be a reincarnation of
their favorite cyborg. Perhaps they are just not in good touch with
Then I discovered Debian. People on this mailing list have been the most
well behaved I have ever seen in the online world. They are
knowledgeable, appropriately polite and courteous and well informed. It
is always nice to read people views here. Things get rough sometimes,
but that is within reasonable limits ... that is how the world is. And I
haven't really looked back and seldom visit the newsgroups which are
frequented by geeky extremists.
Not to say that I don't believe you about your experience. I am sure
there are developers who are full of air. But most probably, they are
yet to grow up and learn how to interact with fellow human beings.
I have filed some bugs in the past, and the response has been very
positive. For all I know, it is the best support I have had. Though it
required knowledge on the bug filer's part (I was asked for a patch
once, I read up on how to do it and send it off).
I would just like say that you should try to have confidence in debian
developers a bit more. Please ignore the rotten apples and just try to
enjoy the wonderful concept that Debian is.
Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding
newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just
filtered to a folder in my mailbox that gets periodically deleted
without ever having been read.