Re: Debian crash randomly
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Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> On 28/04/2008, Micha <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more
> You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unstable, like
> its name sounds, and like we can witness with Mond and with me. Newer
> software is hardly ever necessary. For the fabled "desktop use",
> stable is pretty good (websurfing, MSFT office documents, chatting,
> multimedia), and there is no way I'm installing anything but stable on
> grandma's machine. Stable doesn't crash, it does what it's supposed to
> do, and it gives free software a good name.
> Backports are rarely necessary, and if there is a user savvy enough to
> know that they want something newer than what's in stable, I recommend
> them to try a backport, and if that doesn't work, then to compile from
> source. Otherwise, I really question why do they need newer software.
> Hardware compatibility is a different issue. If they have hardware
> that's too new for the etch kernels, then I will recommend testing,
> with many reservations. But I don't recommend unstable to anyone
> unless they're willing to tolerate the occasional crash and possible
> data loss. This is Debian's official position too regarding the three
> distributions. "The unstable distribution is where active development
> of Debian occurs. Generally, this distribution is run by developers
> and those who like to live on the edge." Debian newbies presumably
> don't want to live on the edge. Debian also recommends that you run
> stable, and they don't make a distinction between running stable on
> servers or on "desktops".
> I run testing most of the time, with the occasional non-critical
> unstable package, but that's because I like bugs. :-) When I can, I
> will poke around the source code to see if I can find why a particular
> piece of software is segfaulting.
> - Jordi G. H.
But how does the distribution advance if *NOONE* runs testing/unstable?
I run 4 Debian boxes at the moment, 2 sid, 1 testing, 1 stable.
The stable box is with my mother, I really doubt the lack of features
bothers her, and is handy for when i want to see "what's in etch".
The testing machine is my laptop for work, which I need more features
for, but don't need the regular breakages of sid (and yes, when things
do hit the fan, i just install the working update with dpkg from the sid
repos, and then let that advance sink into the background).
Then i have 2 desktops which run sid, on different archtypes, and give
me basis for comparison, and a chance to play with the latest and
greatest, although i still wind up building a lot of svn and cvs code.
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