At Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:28:47 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West wrote, "... sometimes, on upgrades, xfce *unchecks* the "Allow xfce to manage desktop" option ..." The setting is in the Desktop Preferences. Easily switched and it solves the problem. Thanks, ... Peter E. Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.yi.org/