Re: Query about Iceape, Iceweasel
On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:48:40PM -0700, Steve Lamb
<email@example.com> was heard to say:
Nate Duehr wrote:
might argue that the software should handle it perfectly, but at
level of insanity, I certainly don't care anymore... as one user to
another -- since I'm not a developer or package maintainer
Might I suggest since you're neither a developer or a package
maintainer to keep your insults to yourself? Be helpful or be gone.
Personally, I would hope that developers and package maintainers
also keep their insults to themselves.
I didn't start the insults, please look back through the thread. The
original poster gets more and more agitated that people aren't
"testing correctly" without fully defining his problem from the
(If I'd have seen him say, "I'm opening a god-awful number of windows
and then... X happens...", I would have ignored the entire thread
from the beginning. He suckered me into trying to help and then said
I wasn't doing it right... fine... go whine to the devs, instead of a
I'm sure all the fine folks dog-piling on me who didn't bother to
read the entire thread, will get all of his problems sorted out now.
For free. Like "professionals" even! And he'll NEVER have another
problem ever again with free software! (Yes, that's sarcasm.)
The OP needs to realize that free software sometimes works great,
sometimes works badly. Having an attitude that reeks of
"entitlement" (this MUST work for me or you must make it work!),
doesn't get many other users interested in helping him.
In my upset state, I mixed in the information of exactly how to trace
what the software is doing with some "get a clue" insults. I
probably shouldn't have done that. Still others had offered up
MULTIPLE ideas on how to fix the problem, and the OP refuses to try
I don't think I'm the one with the problem here. Guess what? Iceape/
Iceweasel works FINE for me... so guess who has the problem?
The OP needs to get over himself and try some of the suggestions
given, in some cases those solutions have been repeated MULTIPLE
times by his peers here with more experience with the software.
Rebuild the profile, purge and reinstall, or trace the software and
see exactly what's triggering the behavior you don't like. It's just
a damn browser, after all. There are other browsers to try, too.
Am I still a bit upset? Yes. I hate it when people think they
DESERVE answers to their questions here. It reeks of the very
elitism he claims I hit him with -- I just flung it back his
direction, is all. I only did because he started in on me...
ignoring suggestions, acting like he was entitled to better answers,
claiming that we weren't "doing it right" when he hadn't shared even
the most important detail -- that he was opening a large number of
windows to lots of different sites. (If you recall, he sent a list
of exactly TWO URL's and told us those were the problem sites. Uh-
Anyway... who cares? He'll either find answers to his problems from
all you "nice" people, or he'll still hate the software and maybe
even me, and I'll still be happy with the software I'm using and he
won't. The "mean" people offered up solutions and he didn't like
them. Oh well. I guess we're terrible people. Good bye.
(I'm going to go be "mean" and enjoy the efforts of all the
developers who've kindly developed all this free software. Sometimes
it doesn't work right -- you don't see me complaining that a USER
list isn't supporting it in a "professional" way. Of course we
don't. We're users. Talk to the devs, for crying out loud. I never
owed you any answers or ideas in the first place, and you went on the
offensive when you didn't like what I offered. I didn't start it.
Then Steve piles on with complaints that I'm being rude. Fine.
Steve can fix your problems, as I'm sure he will. Please make sure
to send any complaints in the future to Steve.)