Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)
Ron Johnson firstname.lastname@example.org <mailto:email@example.com> Fri, 25
May 2007 12:15:17 -0500
On 05/25/07 11:32, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote (portions deleted):
> have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's. Ubuntu Dapper Drake
> stalled with a KDE desk error.
RJ> What kind of error?
It halted with the beige screen of death with a small box saying KDE
Desk Error if I remember correctly. At the time I was just seeing which
CDROM would be successful while waiting for the replacement drive.
RJ> Have you correctly installed the replacement drive?
When I got the drive, I had to take it out of the caddy and flip it.
Since Windows installed correctly without a problem, the physical drive
installation is fine.
> I've ordered a Belkin wireless USB adapter (g protocol). I have
> not tested the internal modem yet but would want a faster connection. I
> have a home network connected by ethernet and a Belkin wireless g
> The network itself connects to the Internet through a Xoom DSL modem.
> I have done network install of Debian etch to a desktop over my
> Are there any special techniques or extra information that I have
> I can download iso images to my desktop and create CDROM's.
Two vital questions are:
1. How much RAM does the laptop have? Probably not much.
128 MB (Since it is probably not much, I did set aside a 2 GB partition
for a swap partition.)
2. How much experience do you have with Linux?
I have Debian Sarge running on a Gateway 500 Pentium III 500 MHZ which
also dual boots via LILO into Windows 98SE.
I have Debian Etch which is sharing the box with Windows XP Pro dual
booting under GRUB.
That box has a Pentium 4 Prescott at 3.2 GHZ.
I have enough experience to get good and lost!
RJ> Xubuntu might be good choice to install, even though you might then
RJ> have to install a lighter-weight window manager.
As old as this equipment is, a light weight window manager such as xfce
on top of Debian or Xubuntu may indeed be the way to go.
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
Johannes Wiedersich <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Fri, 25 May 2007 19:56:18 +0200
JW> Debian woody 3.0 was released in 2002. It became obsolete by the release
JW> of 'sarge'. Now we have debian etch 4.0. Try to install etch.
JW> Your hardware probably is too old (ie. not powerful enough) to run KDE
JW> or gnome. Start out with a minimal install and add xfce4 or another
JW> light-weight window manager.
(duplicate paragraph deleted)
JW> I don't know if the installer for etch supports your modem. You might be
JW> better off to either download the first CD with another computer or buy
JW> a set of CDs from a vendor.
JW> HTH, Johannes
Wayne Topa email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org> Fri,
25 May 2007 18:
Gayle Lee Fairless(email@example.com) is reported to have said:
> I just installed Windows XP Professional on an IBM ThinkPad 390
> with a Pentium MMX (233 MHZ) and a 60 GB harddrive. (I have partioned it
> in anticipation of also installing Linux.) Knoppix 3.7 boots on the
> machine. (Would I be able to migrate to Debian or just stay with Knoppix
> if I go that way?)
WT> I have Debian Testing running on 2 Thinkpad 770's one 60Gb HD and one
WT> with a 10 Gb HD. The 233 Mhz 770 is running as an Access point, with
WT> a NeatGear WG511U PCMCIA card, serving up the net to wireless and
WT> wired Lan. If you are up for a good distro, Debian is the way to go
WT> IMHO. You could always use the Knoppix Live CD to get a handle on
WT> Linux. My 770's will not run any Knoppix but the 3.7 you tried. None
WT> of the (k)ubuntu CD's I tried have worked. The Debian netinstall iso
WT> was the only 2.6 kernel that I have not had a problem with on the
WT> 770's. :-)
> (portion deleted) Anyway I would prefer to install
> something more modern. The one USB 1.1 port works well. I'm not sure
> about the PCMIA slots. Obviously the CDROM drive works, or I could not
> have installed Windows and booted live Linux CD's …. (portion deleted)
WT> The 1.1 USB slot on the 200Mhz 770 has worked with 2 different USB
WT> Wireless dongles. The pcmcia slots on that one are NG. I also found
WT> a Belkin USB-> Ethernet dongle that works also.
NG => No Good?
Are you saying that yours happened to be No Good, or, in general, are
these PCMIA slots so old as to be useless altogether?
(same duplicate paragraph deleted)
WT> From the above I would suggest you take the jump to Lenny/Testing on the
WT> 390. I have not found anything that doesn't work, yet, on the 200Mhz
WT> box and it only has a 8.8Gb partition and its using only 29% of that. I
WT> loaded up a bunch of drivers on it to test all the USB stuff. You may
WT> have enough room for a Knoppix partition as well. A 3 dist boot job.
WT> Good luck!
I have a U.S.Robotics 100 Mbps 802.11g Wireless Turbo PC Card —USR5410--
with an installation CDROM (probably intended mainly for Windows).
I have a Belkin F5D7050 USB Wireless Adapter – 54 Mbps, 802.11g, USB 2.0
on order from Tigerdirect.
Do you know which one would work? Or if both work, which one is better?
Once I can get a reasonably fast Internet connection, I would like to
use a network install CDROM for Debian Etch. Although I have two (one
from 16 months ago and one from late last year), I probably need the
latest one from the official Etch stable. Right?
From what has been previously been said, I probably need to try xfce or
one of the light weight window managers. Since I’m used to KDE and
Windows, this is probably another thread! Some hints on the installation
choices might be helpful!