Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On 05/18/2007 05:08 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
Joey Hess wrote:
Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal,
I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become
nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read
our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of
offtopic posts there.
I would like to help in whatever way I can to stop these OT posts. I have
previously complained about it. But the OT posters never seem to listen.
There were only a bunch in the beginning, of late the number of OT posters
is also increasing. Now that the complaint is coming from a DD, I hope that
some action/policy will be laid out...
The problem of OT posts is not really all that bad so long as people
follow the convention of putting the [OT] tag in the subject line.
OT posts are only annoying if you see them.
Greg Folkert (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/05/msg01282.html)
even made a mockery of people complaining about OT posts. That is just sad.
What makes this whole issue difficult is that these people hijack threads
and make them OT.
Again, the "hijacking" doesn't affect the thread for the people who both
use [OT] filters and continue the technical discussions--assuming that
the "hijackers" follow the [OT] convention.
While I may be interested in the original thread, it
becomes unreadable in the due course.
Moreover, the OT posters are pretty knowledgeable about Debian (atleast they
know a lot more than myself). So I cannot even killfile them since then I
would not benefit from their non-OT posts.
I've in the past threatened to leave -user
entirely, and I have in fact moved a lot of my attention to providing
support on forums.debian.net, but I would prefer that Debian
articulate a policy of not tolerating this kind of behavior.
It's so sad that these OT posters are driving away people like you. I have
always enjoyed (learned a lot from) your posts on this mailing list.
I also want to thank you Joey Hess for helping out on this list. I hope
that the OT threads don't push you away.
I'm just a mere user, but the idea of enforcing the topic concerns me.
If the list maintainer is to become a list moderator, he is going to
have a lot of work to do since debian-user gets an average of 100
messages per day.
Blocking people who often make off-topic posts is also not problem-free
because such blocking would probably be done by e-mail address, and
e-mail addresses are easy to create and cheap.
If the blocking is done by IP address, it'll probably affect people who
use dialup-connections like me.
However, I do think it would be good to add language to the description
of the mailing list that suggests that people take off-topic