Re: Debian User List
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 13:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas <email@example.com> wrote:
> > Actually, I would prefer if [OT] messages would be kept [OOTL]
> > (out of this list)
> I said this once before and got shot down, but here it is again:
> If this list is supposed to be for idle chit-chat among the debian
> community, then we really have no mailing list specifically for people to
> talk about debian, or get help about debian. We should have at least another
> list, probably "debian-help".
Okay, so why would *I* subscribe to that list?
I wouldn't. I am itching for Etch to go stable so I can really help the
brunt that will come. The brunt of questions that will FINALLY be there.
All of this crap is filler for the stuff we have coming very soon.
Once Etch goes stable, we will have VERY LITTLE time or effort free for
OT chit-chat. If you really see this as a bad thing right now, well I
guess you've never been waiting for a huge production drop at your work.
I've been part of multi-million dollar production drops, where the
"infrastructure side" was just sitting there twiddling or thumbs for
weeks, waiting for QA and testing to be done and bless. The customers
(internal customers) would be so bored that for days at a time, nothing
but family gatherings and other chit chat were the norm.
Once the ball was dropped into play, I think it was 3 months before
ANYONE chit-chatted about anything. Mostly it annoyed those of us trying
to get work done.
For the next week (based on the latest 1 week delay 'til April 9th), we
will see mostly twiddling of thumbs on DMLs like this. When the
migration of Etch to Stable happens, we all switch gears.
I'll be helping the people panicking about Sid being broken and how to
help them understand a work around. As well as people treading softly on
Etch without understand why just a "apt-get upgrade" doesn't really help
them at all.
You want the truth? You can't handle the truth. I have neither the time
nor inclination to give you the answers about this that you want.
IOW, we are on the tail end of "Sarge" Bell Curve of questions and just
on the shallow beginning edge of the "Etch" Bell curve.
Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's
Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive
product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at
the playfield. -- Thane Walkup