On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 06:57:31PM +0100 or thereabouts, John Kelly wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:15:58 -0400, Stephen > <stephen.d.allen@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> But debian-user is more than a mailing list. It's also gated to the > >> Usenet newsgroup linux.debian.user, where anyone can post. > > >> Spam filtering of non subscribers, after the fact, is the only method > >> possible, under the circumstances. > > >Not necessarily. I'm on a couple of other lists that are gated to USENET > >, as well as being on private company servers. Anyone can read/reply to > >the USENET postings, but they won't make it to the private server, until > >one registers there first. > > Debian is not a PRIVATE organization. Debian wants to be accessible, > via mailing lists or Usenet, without treating Usenet posters as second > class citizens, or diminishing the convenience of Usenet access. Naturally, however having subscriptions is not closing access, and no one in this thread is asserting that Debian isn't a public organization. It's my understanding that one can't just post on USENETs debian-user, one has to go through a gateway, which _does_ require a subscription process. Has this changed or is my understanding incorrect ? Hell, do you think for profit companies want to prevent their customers from using their e-mail lists ? Of course not, it simply lets them control access to those, that wish to use the list without needing to filter copious amounts of UCE. It's about the user experience (sorry for the cliche). Perhaps Debian should consider that, it's at least equally as important as open unfettered access for SPAMers. > If it was my decision to make, I would abolish the mailing lists, and > run Usenet only. Many users pulling is more efficient than one server > pushing. I'm happy you're not the decision maker then. :) USENET is pretty much useless these days, because of it's open unfettered access and signal to noise ratio. Not all newsgroups, but many. -- Regards Stephen +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kindness is a language which the deaf can hear and the blind can read. -- Mark Twain +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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