Re: "Antispam UOL" spam from firstname.lastname@example.org?
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Gene Heskett wrote:
> I beg to differ about incompetent. And I doubt if its anything like
Read my reply to my own post.
> 100000 linux users just from that one ISP. OTOH, if those users who do
We are not talking about a pint-sized-country's ISP here, they should exceed
10k LINUX users easily (although I am not sure about 100k LINUX users).
But it is an AOL-style ISP, so the users are quite often clueless... and so
is the entire first and second-level support staff, as usual in these ISPs.
> get tossed figure out why, they WILL take a cluebat to the ISP's
> offices and get it fixed. 10 pissed users showing up at the offices
Heh, which one of the 50 or so offices? You need somethink like 1000 pissed
off users to even make them notice, and they better clog the entrace of the
datacenter (and wear heavy protection gear, the police won't like it).
> Absolutely no response has been obtained from any of those addresses I
> posted earlier. I also have no clue if the forwarding in kmail 1.7
> works as advertised since I'd never tried it before. I also haven't
> taken the time to search my sent-mail folder, call me lazy.
Well, don't report anyone to rfc-ignorant.org on that basis.
> >Ever heard of VERP? It is immune to forwarding and header cleanup. It
> > has been in use for years. It can be done automatically by the ML
> > software, or you can use an external utility and process the results
> > of a VERP run manually.
> Nope, never heard of it. Commercial I assume... I wonder if Warren
> Togami (RH) has knowledge of it?
Don't assume. You are as off the mark as someone thinking that Microsoft
created the Linux kernel. I won't even bother posting a link, do a Google
A listmaster has to be incompetent to not know about VERP. Of course, he
can _know_ about VERP and still not use it for whichever reason, that
wouldn't qualify him as incompetent at all.
There is no way Warren Togami wouldn't know about it if he is a RedHat
listmaster (I don't know him). What does he consider enough reason to
actually USE VERP, I have no idea.
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