Re: "Antispam UOL" spam from firstname.lastname@example.org?
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >This attitude would punish a lot of users, "thank you". For example,
> >since they are my ISP, I'm using them as a relay.
> And "open" relays should be banned. Period.
UOL may be a lot of crap, but open relays they are not AFAIK.
> I'm forwarding all such messages to email@example.com. Its no doubt a
> black hole, but...
IF it is a blackhole, complain at rfc-ignorant.org. Unlike a damnable user
with that annoying challenge-response system enabled to a mailing list, an
ISP failing to pay attention to abuse@ is not forgiveable, and UOL has the
resources to respond to abuse@ without problems.
Rogério, I'd phone UOL right now, and give them hell. They won't listen to
YOU, but if enough people complain, they'll do something about it.
> The Fedora list has simply expunged all users from this ISP from the
> subscription lists, a self defense brought on by a C/R response from
> this twerp for every message posted, doubling the load on the servers.
Incompetent listmasters there? Blacklisting at least 100000 users for one
dumbass that replies with a constant email address you could drop at the
incoming MTAs? (and it is probably more like 500000 or so, this ISP is
*big* and country-wide).
> You see, the C/R responder this clueless twit has setup, is also
> expunging all traces of the source user from the headers of the
> messages, therefore we have no recourse against that user as an
NOW, THAT is something UOL could fix without 'losing face or business'.
Rogério, you're their costumer. I'd highly suggest you contact them NOW.
Use the Fedora blocking as leverage, and open different tickets (otherwise
they WILL ignore your complain and all suggestions that are in the same
I'd suggest one for headers of the original email on the AntispamUOL *email
reply* and not the fucking web page, and another to allow us to submit
AntispamUOL blacklists to them (which will drop any and all messages
requiring AntispamUOL verification that are addressed to some domains). And
a third one for the abuse@, warning of the blacklisting which WILL be done
through rfc-ignorant.org sooner or later.
> individual and must perforce blacklist, reject, or otherwise dispose of
> all messages comeing from that triplet of addresses that represent
Ever heard of VERP? It is immune to forwarding and header cleanup. It has
been in use for years. It can be done automatically by the ML software, or
you can use an external utility and process the results of a VERP run
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