Re: debian vs ubuntu and knoppix
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| On (11/10/05 21:02), Alvin Oga wrote:
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| Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
| From: Alvin Oga <aoga@mail.Linux-Consulting.com>
| To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
| Subject: Re: debian vs ubuntu and knoppix
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|
| hi ya steve
|
| On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Nate Duehr wrote:
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| > Steve Lamb wrote:
| > > Alvin Oga wrote:
| > >
| > >> - debian ... free ...
| > >> - ubuntu ... commercialized version of debian's "hard work"
| > >> which to me is wrong to do.. but oh well..
| > >
| > > Uhhh, Alvin, you've been spreading a lot of disinformation on this list
| > > lately. I mean a LOT of disinformation. This is a prime example. From
| > > Ubuntu's front page, emphasis mine:
|
| just because you disagree doesn't mean you are right and i am wrong
| so who is jumping on whose ass ??? .. have fun disagree-ing and flaming ..
|
| - and ubuntu does and always have promoted themself as commercial ...
| commercial support as their primary business
|
You do realize the project is funded by a multi-millionare right? It is not
a commercial entity.
| - sure they have free versions, but they also have not free versions
|
| even suse and redhat has free versions of almost the identical ocde
| as what they're selling for $x,000 .. but, that doesn't make them
| opensource, free, .. etc .. whatever you wanna call it
| - or you want to argue what is opensource too :-)
|
| - it's called "free r/d and free qa dept"
|
| > Ahh... people can go read it for themselves. But Alvin's not wrong.
| > He's also not 100% right -- as is typically with these things, the issue
| > is more complex than one sentence can adequately display. He just has a
| > slightly different viewpoint than yours.
|
| bingo ... one person will take one view ..and others will take a different
| view, given that unbuntu has more than one core business idea/entity
|
| > http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing/document_view
| >
| > Some people find the Ubuntu spin-off inappropriate
|
| yup... but there will always be different ways and different reasons
| for spinoffs ... some good .. some not so good ...
|
| (why didn't they just
| > donate to Debian and try to get a commitment on release cycles?)
|
| that'd be too easy ... and probably because they can't call it "their own
| widget"
|
| > Me? I just kick back and enjoy the flamefests and trolling...
|
| yeah.. that's always fun to see who jumps on who .. and why ...
|
| > if
| > there's one thing that never changes about the Net and Free Software,
| > it's that.
|
| hasn't changed in 30 yrs ...
|
| c ya
| alvin
|
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