I think w/o 111 and 113 you can't authenticate users to login to the machine. Of course that also makes it very secure. 980 is in the unassigned range and should not be in use, check that out. 4sure >> >> rpcbind 111 >> >> auth 113 >> >> unknown 980? netstat -tulpn Go into your /etc/rc#.d directories and look for S* files with the service in the name or grep and find it that way. Also /etc/init.d RbtBotL Craig - ><> o BU SysAdmin /|\ 607 777 6827 ^ Tot Ziens