Re: Debain on the rise ! - However ....
At 01:43 PM 2/2/04 -0600, you wrote:
Wrong, IMO! I think it is quite arrogant to dismiss a "newbie" list
because of an attitude that "newbies would be too dumb to find it!"
Perhaps it is arrogant, but I agree with the person referred to above as
"you" (Monique maybe?). Even experienced users might have a problem
deciding which list to post to. For example, I'm printing to a network
printer shared off an NT server; is my problem related to the printer
driver, or to Samba setup, or to domain authentication, or to a
firewalling network issue, or what? If I post to Debian-Printing, the
person who knows that the answer is Samba-related may be the person who
never hangs out on Debian-Printing. So not finding an answer on
Debian-Printing, I either get frustrated and give up, or I cross-post to
ten different Debian lists, increasing the noise on several lists, and
making it harder to search the archives for answers.
And what about discretization in other areas? I asked a question about
the Debian install (3.0 r1) not recognizing my HDDs connected to a
Rocket-133 PCI-IDE card (a few days ago---titled "New Debian install +
Rocket133 = no HDDs! (Please help..."). I followed-up my first post
with some details I forgot (like the version of Debian and the fact that
I tried *all* the installs, starting with the 2.4 kernel).
I included *lots* of detail---as much as I reasonably could. Please
look! I spent a *long* time composing the e-mail, so that I could
provide a reasonably-well-formed question. The result? I got *one*
reply (thank you!), but it suggested: (1) use the "bf24" install---which
I was already doing, and (2) build a new kernel for the install---an
issue which I had addressed in my follow-up post (basically saying that
I'd never compiled a kernel before, and even if I *did* compile a new
kernel, I didn't know how to use *that* kernel for a Debian installation).
Sadly, it appears that no one knew the answer to your problem. This does
sometimes happen. I for one have never even heard of a "Rocket-133 PCI-IDE
card", and wouldn't have the first suggestion for you. Thus, I kept quite.
If you have on-board IDE controllers, you might try plugging your hard
drive into that, just to see what results you get. I suspect that the
Rocket-133 card simply isn't yet supported by the standard kernel drivers.
Perhaps RedHat included third-party drivers. This is one of the advantages
of using a consumer-oriented distro. Unless this driver is "Free", it's
not going to show up in Debian, and if a Debian developer doesn't have
this card, he's not likely to spend time/effort to develop a Free version
of the driver.
I understand it's frustrating for you, but as a general rule, the more
rare that a piece of hardware is, the less likely it is to be supported.
Well, I'll tell you the frustrating part. The frustrating part is that I
actually *went* to the Debian site to find which IDE controller might be
best supported! I think that I then went to www.linux.org, and maybe the
LDP. I forgot what supported-hardware page I fiannly found, but it had IDE
controllers listed by ATA speeds, and under ATA133, it said something like
"pretty much any ATA133 card". I noticed under ATA100 that some "Rocket"
card(s) was(were) listed---from Highpoint (www.highpoint-tech.com). The
Rocket-133 is just a cheap, plain-Jane ATA133 controller. No doubt, I
missed some "official" list of supported HW, but I did *try*!
And thanks for your kind reply!
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