I'm running woody with xfce window manager and xmms will play fine using the OSS ouput plugin, but not with the ESD plugin. Problem is xmms won't share when it's playing. I'm in the audio group and is set the permissions on /dev/dsp to crw-rw-rw- but it still won't use the ESD output plugin. Anyone got an idea? thanks, jc -- Jeff Coppock Systems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User