Re: Woody with ext3, 2.4 kernel + custom install questions
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> begin Andrew Pollock quotation:
> >
> > I work for a managed security provider, and one of the reasons that they
> > are using Mandrake over the likes of Red Hat is because of the control
> > Mandrake allows over what gets installed. (i.e. when you say you want
> > nothing, you get exactly that. The exact example that was told to me was
> > with Red Hat you'd say you wanted nothing installed, but the thing would
> > still listen on port 25. I have to say that even a base install of Debian
> > has port 25 open, which is going to unimpress some people here...)
>
> Define what they meant by "port 25 open". If you don't install an SMTP
> daemon of any kind, such as sendmail or exim, you won't have anything
> listening on that port, but "open" means different things in different
> contexts.
Debian installs exim by default. i.e. it doesn't ask you if you'd like an
SMTP server, it installs it. Sure, one of the very next things it asks you
is how do you want exim configured, but I believe even if you choose the
"do nothing" response, it leaves exim activated via inetd.
> Also, "want nothing installed" is irrational. If NOTHING is installed,
> you won't have any ports listening, because you'll have a blank hard
> drive. You can't say "when I installed RedHat (or Mandrake or Debian
> etc.) I told it to install nothing." It's nonsensical.
Okay, "nothing" vs "minimalist", meaning you get a bare bones system with
just the bare necessities, and anything beyond that you explicitly choose
to install.
> Either you're misremembering what was said, or the person saying it was
> very very confused.
Basically what was said about Red Hat's "minimalist" install was it
included too much.
Andrew
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