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> debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2002 : Issue 59
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> Today's Topics:
> Re: signal 4 kills X [ Martin
> Hermanowski <martin@mh57.net ]
> Re: Can't download pppoeconf - was ( [ Matt
> Wehland <mattw@webtripper.com> ]
> Re: Can't download pppoeconf - was ( [ Steffen
> Evers <mldeb@forevers.de> ]
> G'day - Intro (longish) - and need s [ "D Haben"
> <habend@iprimus.com.au> ]
> [Fwd: Re: SSH probs solved (was: SSH [ Glen
> Snyder <snyderg@frontiernet.ne ]
> Upgraded to kernel 2.4.18, and pcmci [ Rich
> Warren <riki@warrens.toythieve ]
> Re: Can't download pppoeconf - was ( [ Matt
> Wehland <mattw@webtripper.com> ]
> changing bit-depth in X [ will
> trillich <will@serensoft.com> ]
> StarOffice for potato [ Phil
> <phillinux@brainlink.com> ]
> resolver options: debug not working [ Bill
> Triplett <btt@nethouse.com> ]
> Re: MPlayer. It works vey well! Than [ Crispin
> Wellington <crispin@aeonlin ]
> Re: how to get Mesa/OpenGL to use di [ "Adam
> Majer" <adamm@galacticasoftwa ]
> Re: StarOffice for potato [ "nate"
> <debian-user@aphroland.org> ]
> Re: kcalc math bug? [ "Adam
> Majer" <adamm@galacticasoftwa ]
> Re: kcalc math bug? [ "Adam
> Majer" <adamm@galacticasoftwa ]
> Re: StarOffice for potato [ "Adam
> Majer" <adamm@galacticasoftwa ]
> Re: Upgraded to woody and printing f [ Gruetzner
> <jgruetzner3@comcast.net> ]
> mime-types mappings for browsers? [ Bill
> Moseley <moseley@hank.org> ]
> Re: Gdk-WARNING **: locale not suppo [ "Sean
> 'Shaleh' Perry" <shalehperry@ ]
> Re: changing bit-depth in X [ "Sean
> 'Shaleh' Perry" <shalehperry@ ]
>
> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 03:37:46 +0100
> From: Martin Hermanowski <martin@mh57.net>
> To: debian users <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> CC: madduck@madduck.net
> Subject: Re: signal 4 kills X
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020330023746.GK12267@mh57.net>
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 11:43:20PM +0100, martin f
> krafft wrote:
> > also sprach martin f krafft <madduck@madduck.net>
> [2002.03.29.2104 +0100]:
> >> also sprach Andrew Agno <agno@AI.SRI.COM>
> [2002.03.29.1953 +0100]:
> >>> Possibly a problem with an interaction with any
> power-saving mode you
> >>> have?
> >>
> >> i was thinking about that too, but on AC power,
> all the BIOS power
> >> stuff is disabled (and i am running it on AC
> power currently).
> >>
> >> but for testing purposes, i have disabled apmd
> for now.
> >
> > (no effect)
> >
> >> however, the laptop is neither suspended nor
> unplugged, not even the
> >> display is closed... i am going to record the
> idle time until it crashes
> >> now!
> >
> > here are the recorded times of three crashes:
> >
> > idle time start: crash:
> > Fri Mar 29 21:17:49 CET 2002 Fri Mar 29
> 21:37:49 CET 2002
> > Fri Mar 29 21:39:17 CET 2002 Fri Mar 29
> 21:59:18 CET 2002
> > Fri Mar 29 22:19:23 CET 2002 Fri Mar 29
> 22:39:24 CET 2002
> >
> > i think you get the idea. 20 minutes. but neither
> my BIOS has a 20
> > minute setting for APM/ACPI nor can i find a 5+15
> setting or anything
> > like that. ACPI is disabled anyway.
> >
> > to make sure, i disabled all power management in
> the BIOS, which was
> > only "Smart CPU mode" for AC and rebooted. waiting
> for that result
> > now. ah, there she comes... but a crash after 20
> minutes...
> >
> > the last thing to test is boot-time disabling of
> apm, so at the lilo
> > prompt: linux apm=off
> >
> > but another crash after 20 minutes. wtf???
>
> I had the same problem with an ibm tp a30 (radeon
> chip). I also use the
> vesa interface for X, and after finding the
> following in `man
> XF86Config-4' I just turned DPMS off, and now it
> works:
>
> ,----[ Option "StandbyTime" "time" ]
> | sets the inactivity timeout for the "standby"
> phase of DPMS mode. time
> | is in minutes, and the value can be changed at
> run-time with xset(1).
> | Default: 20 minutes. This is only suitable for
> VESA DPMS compatible
> | monitors, and may not be supported by all video
> drivers. It is only
> | enabled for screens that have the "DPMS" option
> set (see the MONITOR
> | section below).
> `----
>
> I still have problems of X dying if I switch to
> console and back, I am
> using the kernel framebuffer (2.4.17pre9)
>
> HTH
> Martin
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:47:16 -0600
> From: Matt Wehland <mattw@webtripper.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Can't download pppoeconf - was ( Woody
> installation
> problem)
>
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> As an update, I just tried the bf4 flavor of the
> boot disks and recieved
> the same error- can't download PPPOECONF, and the
> install of the base
> system quits.
>
> I think I am going to try either stable on this
> system and then upgrade or
> i may pull a desktop out that I have been meaning to
> work on anyway. Heck
> I think I will probably do both.
>
> Oh crud, I just looked at the previous message I
> just sent, gee don't I
> know how to snip a message?
> Apologies for wasted bandwith.
>
> Matt
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 03:52:17 +0100
> From: Steffen Evers <mldeb@forevers.de>
> To: Matt Wehland <mattw@webtripper.com>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Can't download pppoeconf - was ( Woody
> installation problem)
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 20:09, Matt Wehland wrote:
> > If I can just figure out that it is a bug and not
> user error I will be
> > happy to file a bug report (Well I'll be happy to
> try and figure out how)
> > If I can supply any more info just ask. I'm going
> to keep beating on it
> > for now.
> As fare as I know pppoe is just about to enter the
> install procedure. I
> have read something like this on the list a few days
> ago. So, I guess
> it is a bug ...
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:51:47 +1100
> From: "D Haben" <habend@iprimus.com.au>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: G'day - Intro (longish) - and need some
> help down here ...
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> G'day
>
> I'm new to DEBIAN and need some help/pointer on how
> to get some sort of X session going. xstart doesn't
> work.
>
> I'm running W2KProf on a COMPAQ Armada E500 and
> managed to load DEBIAN from CD (got The advanced
> linux POCKETBOOK from Australian Personal
> Computing). Yes I know I should use something easier
> but the 'non-advanced' edition was stolen a few
> weeks ago - exactly one day after I installed
> Mandrake! Doh!
>
> Anyway, I now have Debian installed and I managed to
> reinstall the MBR from a Win2K CD so I can boot that
> again and keep my job - it's a wok PC u c!
>
> So, I now managed to edit (using ee thank you so
> much) the lilo.conf file and can now boot either
> Win2KProf or Debian.
>
> So far so good. Now to my question/need of help:
>
> I can log in at a character session (as root) but
> startx fails to start as there is no config file. I
> had problems during the install with any X type
> modules (XFree86?). I don't (didn't) know the Laptop
> settings, hardware etc.
>
> Found a few pages that now tell me what it is but
> how do I now go about installing/setting up some
> sort of X session provider?
>
> Hardware Details:
> COMPAQ Armada E500
> 128MB RAM
> single CPU
>
> From another site I found (google is cool) I think
> this may apply:
>
> 14" TFT screen 1024x768
> PS/2 touchpad
> Lucent Winmodem
> Intel 440 BX chipset
>
> Apparently I'm to use XFree86 3.3.6 (or higher) and
> ther is some talk about SuSE tool - whatever that
> is?
>
> Anyway if anyone can drop me a line on how to
> proceed from here would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks and sorry for the long intro.
>
> TIA,
> /[:-)irK
> PS: That sig isn't supposed to translate into any
> fancy pic either!
> DIRK aka DearK
>
>
>
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822
> Date: 29 Mar 2002 21:59:51 -0500
> From: Glen Snyder <snyderg@frontiernet.net>
> To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org"
> <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: [Fwd: Re: SSH probs solved (was: SSH2
> packet error..)]
> Message-Id: <[🔎] 1017457192.3825.9.camel@snyderbox>
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>
> Oops, the line should have been:
> # ssh-keygen -x > my_dsa.pub
>
> -glen
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 6.2 message/rfc822
> Subject: Re: SSH probs solved (was: SSH2 packet
> error..)
> From: Glen Snyder <snyderg@frontiernet.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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> Date: 29 Mar 2002 20:10:06 -0500
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> I first created the key pair using
> #ssh-keygen -t dsa,
> (Note, unless you leave the name of the keys id_dsa,
> you'll have to use
> -i to identify the keyname with ssh when you
> connect) Then I converted
> to a SSH2 key with
> # ssh-keygen -x |my_dsa.pub
> I copied my_dsa.pub to the host computer in my
> ~/.ssh2/ directory. Then
> I used vim on the host computer to add to a file
> ~/.ssh2/authorization
> Key my_dsa.pub
> Then the next time I logged in, the dsa key worked!
> -Glen
>
> ATTACHMENT part 7 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:42:40 -0700
> From: Rich Warren <riki@warrens.toythieves.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Upgraded to kernel 2.4.18, and pcmcia cards
> no longer work.
> Message-Id:
> <[🔎] 200203300338.g2U3cdgw027018@gateway.homenet>
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> Help!
>
> I've spent about a week trying to get Debian up and
> running on my Toshiba
> Satellite 330CDS laptop. I was using the bf2.4
> floppies to install the base
> system. Once I got that up and running (connected to
> my local network via a
> pcmcia ethernet card, and thus to the internet) I
> started installing
> additional software (eg X, KDE, and so forth).
>
> As a last step I installed the 2.4.18 kernel. I
> reconfigured lilo.conf,
> rebuilt lilo and rebooted.
>
> Unfortunately, now my pcmcia cards do not work! Even
> if I boot using the
> previous kernel (2.4.16).
>
> Now, before changing kernels the cards
> worked--though, I often had to pop
> them out and reinsert them before the ethernet
> interface would start
> working.
>
> Booting from the boot floppy I made during
> installation still works.
>
> Here's some of the more techy bits:
>
> I installed kernel-image-2.4.18-586tsc and
> kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-586tsc. When I shut
> down and restart the
> pcmcia as follows:
>
> # /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop
> Shutting down PCMCIA services:.
> # /etc/init.d/pcmcia start
> Starting PCMCIA services: modulesinsmod: a module
> named pcmcia_core already
> exists
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-586tsc/pcmcia/i82365.o:
> unresolved symbol
> isapnp_find_dev_R9991be23
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-586tsc/pcmcia/ds.o: init_module:
> Operation not permitted
> Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect
> module parameters, including
> invalid IO or IRQ parameters
> cardmgr.
> #
>
> Any suggestions? I think the boot floppy is also
> booting using the
> framebuffer (I get the little penguine icon in the
> upper left corner). This
> doesn't happen when I boot from either of the hard
> drive images.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> -Rich-
>
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 8 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:00:30 -0600
> From: Matt Wehland <mattw@webtripper.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Can't download pppoeconf - was ( Woody
> installation
> problem)
>
> Message-Id:
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> At 08:47 PM 3/29/02 -0600, Matt Wehland wrote:
>
> Play it again sam.
> I just tried installing on another system (an old
> P-90 desktop) and got the
> same error, Couldn't download PPOECONF.
> So now it looks like time to file a bug report.
> Since I'm new to this a little direction could help.
> I'm assuming that the bug should be reported against
> the boot-floopies
> (duh). I've checked outstanding bugs and all I can
> find is
> #139768: boot-floppy: Error in Debian
> install-en-html
> which seems to be about documentation.
>
> Should I just file a bug report against boot floppy
> or should I send a
> message to debian-installer or perhaps both?
> After looking a little bit, it seems that if I
> report to both I should use the
> X-Debbugs-CC: header so the bug tracker keeps
> things straight.
> I'm really leaning towards posting to installer
> also.
>
> I will be filing the bug report using email, since I
> don't have a running
> debian system (ok so thats a lie, but I don't have
> an easily accessible
> debian system that I wish to add packages onto).
>
> Any suggestions on what logs to add to the message?
>
> I have used the report a problem option and now have
> a file to include
> (well I will if I can get this floppy to work).
> How should this be used, just attach the file?
> open it up and include the text?
>
> So many questions.
>
> Well I'm going to watch the Simpsons and then finish
> this bug report.
>
> Also any pointers to using the CVS versions of
> boot-floppies?
>
> I'd hate to go through all this just to find that
> the latest CVS versions work.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 9 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:58:15 -0600
> From: will trillich <will@serensoft.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: changing bit-depth in X
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020329215815.A11833@serensoft.com>
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>
> okay, control-alt-plus and control-alt-minus rotate
> through the
> various x/y resolutions available to the X video
> drivers, right?
>
> is there a way to rotate through the Z dimension?
> that is, it'd
> be nice to see 8-bit, 16(15)bit, 24-bit... where's
> the manual?
>
> --
> I use Debian/GNU Linux version 2.2;
> Linux server 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000
> i586 unknown
>
> DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #25 from Will Trillich
> <will@serensoft.com>
> :
> Did you know you have MORE THAN ONE CONSOLE to use?
> There's
> six, by default: try Control-Alt-F6 to see console
> six,
> Ctl-Alt-F3 for console 3, and so forth. (If you
> don't use the X
> window display system, you don't need to include the
> control
> key. If you do have X running, you can return to it
> from any
> console via Alt-F7, unless you've changed the
> defaults.) Each
> console can have its own login, running its own
> jobs. Very
> handy!
>
> Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 10 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:29:22 -0500
> From: Phil <phillinux@brainlink.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: StarOffice for potato
> Message-Id:
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>
> I have old x86 machines (I work at a public school)
> and managed to get
> Debian 2.1 running but I'm having trouble getting
> software. mozilla,and
> staroffice are not installing because of glibc
> conflicts. wher can I find
> old packages that will install on 2.1
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 11 message/rfc822
> Date: 29 Mar 2002 23:46:49 -0500
> From: Bill Triplett <btt@nethouse.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: resolver options: debug not working
> Message-Id: <[🔎] 1017463610.656.84.camel@fourier>
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>
> Hi all,
>
> As I understand it, adding the line 'options debug'
> in /etc/resolv.conf
> will cause the hostname resolving process to output
> debugging
> information. I have added 'options debug' to my
> /etc/resolv.conf, yet
> there is no indication of any debugging messages to
> stderr (where I
> thought they should go) or in /var/log/debug.
>
> Where do the debugging messages go?
>
> Thanks alot,
> Bill
>
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 12 message/rfc822
> Date: 30 Mar 2002 12:49:00 +0800
> From: Crispin Wellington <crispin@aeonline.net>
> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: MPlayer. It works vey well! Thanks.
> (was: divx and codecs)
> Message-Id: <[🔎] 1017463742.721.6.camel@water>
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> On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 18:22, Alberto Vecchiato
> wrote:
> > I installed the MPlayer deb packages found at
> http://www.mplayer.fr.st/
> > and at http://marillat.free.fr/, along with the
> ffmpeg codecs and a bunch
> > of other things. All seem to work very well and
> the ffmpeg codecs are
> > really efficient, fast and give a smooth
> reproduction even on my laptop.
> > The only problem I have is with a divx file with
> 22050Hz mono audio that
> > is not reproduced correctly, but I suspect it is a
> problem with my audio
> > drivers.
>
> for the sound, try switching off esound if its
> running ('killall esd;
> killall -9 esd') or any other sound server, then use
> the sdl audio
> output module from mplayer. something like
>
> mplayer -vo sdl -au sdl -fs file.mpg
>
> sdl can do the on the fly bitrate conversion needed.
>
> Kind Regards
> Crispin Wellington
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 13 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:12:42 -0600
> From: "Adam Majer" <adamm@galacticasoftware.com>
> To: Dan Griswold <dangriswold@earthlink.net>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: how to get Mesa/OpenGL to use direct
> rendering?
> Message-ID:
> <[🔎] 20020330051242.GC663@galacticasoftware.com>
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 03:45:55PM -0600, Dan
> Griswold wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I may be so confused that maybe I'm not even
> asking the right
> > questions, but here goes.
> >
> > I'd like to have X use the hardware acceleration
> of my video
> > card. Actually, it's not an extra card at all, but
> a Trident
> > CyberBlade/i1 built onto the mainboard. I do have
> the following
>
> You need the DRI module in the kernel. But I'm not
> even sure if
> there are drivers for your chipset. Probably not.
>
> The best cards for 3D accelerated stuff in Linux are
> ATI
> Radeon and nVidia GeForce series.
>
> - Adam
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 14 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:14:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: "nate" <debian-user@aphroland.org>
> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: StarOffice for potato
> Message-ID:
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> <quote who="Phil">
> > I have old x86 machines (I work at a public
> school) and managed to get
> > Debian 2.1 running but I'm having trouble getting
> software. mozilla,and
> > staroffice are not installing because of glibc
> conflicts. wher can I
> > find old packages that will install on 2.1
> >
>
> if your running debian 2.1 that is slink, potato is
> 2.2. i'd
> reccomend upgrading to 2.2 ..i may have star office
> that is really
> old and may run on slink ......id have to look
> though.
>
> nate
>
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 15 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:20:21 -0600
> From: "Adam Majer" <adamm@galacticasoftware.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: kcalc math bug?
> Message-ID:
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 04:05:22PM -0800, Mike Fedyk
> wrote:
>
> > > > 1x2+5x50 (in this order, not in normal
> precedence order that computers and
> > > > etc use...)
> > > >
> > > > And it outputs 252 not 350!
> >
> > NO. Not if I enter it in a specific order.
> >
> > 1x2 = 2
> >
> > 2+5 = 7
> >
> > 7x50 = 350
> >
> > Not 252!
> >
> > That is how a calculator should work when you are
> typing in the calculation
> > by *hand*! I shouldn't have to worry about
> precedence then.
> >
> > This app is supposed to replace the calculator I
> can buy for $10. And that
> > is how it should work.
> >
> > Remember, we are working with hand entered
> calculations that go into the app
> > in a certain order, and *that* is the order that
> it should be calculated...
>
> _Any_ calculator that isn't a piece of crap will
> follow the standard precedence rules.
> Those rules _must_ be obeyed otherwise the real
> numbers that everyone loves so much
> would not even form a field [this will probably not
> mean anything to you but...]
>
> If you want 1*2+5*50 to be equal to 350 then enter
> is as (1*2+5)*50=7*50=350
>
> AFAIK, a $5 calculator will follow precedence..
>
> I hope you realize your error by now..
>
> - Adam
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 16 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:23:08 -0600
> From: "Adam Majer" <adamm@galacticasoftware.com>
> To: Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: kcalc math bug?
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 07:38:24PM -0500, Alan
> Shutko wrote:
> > Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > Remember, we are working with hand entered
> calculations that go into the app
> > > in a certain order, and *that* is the order that
> it should be calculated...
> >
> > There should probably be a preference option
> choosing whether the
> > calculator follows the order of operation, so you
> can choose whether
> > you want the $7 calculator or the $17 calculator.
>
> No!! There can't be an option. If a calculator does
> not follow precedence then
> there should be a grave bug against it. Why? Well,
> for starters, it would mean
>
> 2+3 != 3+2
>
> - Adam
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 17 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:28:51 -0600
> From: "Adam Majer" <adamm@galacticasoftware.com>
> To: Phil <phillinux@brainlink.com>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: StarOffice for potato
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 11:29:22PM -0500, Phil
> wrote:
> > I have old x86 machines (I work at a public
> school) and managed to get
> > Debian 2.1 running but I'm having trouble getting
> software. mozilla,and
> > staroffice are not installing because of glibc
> conflicts. wher can I find
> > old packages that will install on 2.1
>
> BTW, 2.1 is slink. 2.2 is potato.
>
> Why not use one good computer as a server with new
> software and have the old
> boxes log into it as X servers? I thought I would
> mention that since you
> said you have more than one old machine. Running
> StarOffice or Mozilla on a dino would
> be suicide.
>
> - Adam
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 18 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:30:32 -0700
> From: Gruetzner <jgruetzner3@comcast.net>
> To: Steffen Evers <mldeb@forevers.de>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Upgraded to woody and printing from KDE
> stopped
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>
> I am trying to get printing services to work
> under woody. I've
> installed LPRng and apsfilter.
>
> An earlier error message indicated that (at
> least) the printcap file
> had an error.
>
> > > Based upon the kind advice of Steffen E., I
> installed apsfilter (and
> > > associated packages). The Test Page prints
> from apsfilterconfig just
> > > great.
>
> <snip of previous troubleshooting>
>
> > Additionly, there seems to be somthiung wrong
> with the printername:
> > >
>
hl1240|laserjet;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=letter;m=auto@localhost
>
> > It should be 'hl1240' only! Are you sure, you are
> using current woody
> > packages? I remember having this problem earlier.
> If you are sure, your
> > problems are not fixed in current woody packages
> report about the
> > problem on debian-kde list. They will know more
> about KDE cups as well.
>
> Yes, I am using woody as of about an hour ago.
>
> I went and reran /usr/share/apsconfigure/SETUP,
> and am now using the
> hl1250 driver. The test page printed *beautifully*,
> but I still got an
> error message when printing.
>
> I then manually editted /etc/printcap, changing
> the semi-colon ( ; )
> after hl1250 to a colon ( : ). That fixed one
> error message. The error
> message now reads:
>
> ------------------
> <snip>
> Status Information: sending job
> 'family@localhost+680' to
> lp|hl1250@localhost connecting to
> 'localhost',attempt 1 connected to
> 'localhost' requesting printer lp|hl1250@localhost
> job
> 'family @localhost+680' transfer to
> lp|hl1250@localhost failed error
> "NONZERO RFC1179 ERROR CODE FROM SERVER' with ack
> 'ACK_FAIL'
> sending str '^Blp|hl1250 to lp|hl1250@localhost
> error msg: 'spool queue
> for 'lp_hl1250 does not exist on server localhost'
> error msg:
> 'non-existent printer or you need to run 'checkpc
> -f''
>
> I ran checkpc -f; it gave no response.
>
> So...I think I'm making progress, but haven't
> gotten there yet! Do I
> need to do something special to set up a spool
> queue?
>
>
> > Anyway, your printer system should be set up
> correctly now. Try to print
> > something using lpr directly on a postscript file
> or a2ps.
>
> I did a $ lpr printtest.ps
>
> --and it printed all but the first line! (Albeit in
> the wrong font!)
>
> > Make sure you have set the papersize correctly in
> /etc/papersize and
> > /etc/a2ps.cfg (or something similar).
>
> Done: set for letter.
>
> Thanks again, Steffen. I appreciate the help
> you've given. Any other
> ideas?
>
> James
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 19 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:35:06 -0800
> From: Bill Moseley <moseley@hank.org>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: mime-types mappings for browsers?
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> Hi,
>
> I've got mplayer installed, and I'd like to setup my
> browsers to use it.
> Is there a debian package/way to automatically make
> these associations?
>
> I'm running mozilla, galeon, and KDE clients.
>
> Thanks,
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 20 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:44:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <shalehperry@attbi.com>
> To: Troy Telford <troy@myrealbox.com>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by
> C library
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> On 30-Mar-2002 Troy Telford wrote:
> > I've been getting this error when
> installing/upgrading packages for
> > quite a while now. AFAIK, I have everything set
> up OK. Everything runs
> > OK. I just wonder what's causing the warning, and
> how to rid myself of it.
> >
>
> /etc/locale.gen is the file you need.
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 21 message/rfc822
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:46:05 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <shalehperry@attbi.com>
> To: will trillich <will@serensoft.com>
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: changing bit-depth in X
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> On 30-Mar-2002 will trillich wrote:
> > okay, control-alt-plus and control-alt-minus
> rotate through the
> > various x/y resolutions available to the X video
> drivers, right?
> >
> > is there a way to rotate through the Z dimension?
> that is, it'd
> > be nice to see 8-bit, 16(15)bit, 24-bit... where's
> the manual?
> >
>
> it is not possible to do this at runtime. You
> either specify it as a command
> line parameter or in the config file.
>
> The reason has to do with X's design. Each program
> is given a handle to the
> "graphics context" and "screen" this information is
> not updated once given.
>
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