While I'm at it: I expect it would make more sense to search for magic numbers for the tarballs. But how in the world would I do this. Does anyoen actually understand lde (it's man page doesn't have directions for what it claims to do through ncurses . . .) -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 dochawk@psu.edu These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer.