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Re: Kernel upgrades = security upgrades - a possible solution?



On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 10:27:43AM +0000, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 09:41:26PM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> > > the way to solve the problem would be to create a package called e.g.
> > > "secure-kernel", which would depend on the most secure "kernel-image-<ver>".
> > > Then if the security team has newer kernel with security bugfixes, they
> > > would make a new version of "secure-kernel" which would depend on the fixed
> > > kernel.
> > 
> > I, for one, wouldn't want my kernel upgraded automatically, no matter
> > what the fixes involved are. Here's why: I have compiled my own
> > kernel with my hardware selected (sound, tape drive, scsi card,
> > network card) and Debian simply can't afford to make all possible
> > combinations of kernel configurations to provide an easy upgrade path
> > for users. Now, possibly there could be some kind of secure-kernel
> > package which would do nothing more than simply inform you during
> > upgrade that a newer kernel with such-and-such security patches is
> > available and recommend how to upgrade, that's seems more reasonable
> > to me at least.
> 
> That is the point of this idea. If you want your kernel to be upgraded
> automatically, you install secure-kernel, if you only want to be informed,
> you install secure-kernel-info, if you don't care at all, you instal
> neither.

I am still very leery of automatic kernel updating... I do rather like the
idea of secure-kernel-info, as Marcin has described it, but it needs a
better name; secure-kernel just won't do it. kernel-update-watcher perhaps.

However, if security is enough of an issue for you that you think a kernel
package should be made around it, maybe you should keep an eye on bugtraq
and freshmeat, or a cron-job to grab the LATEST-VERSION-IS file from the
kernel.org servers -- no matter which approach is taken, it will be faster
than waiting for a new kernel package to come along...

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