Apparently Mindcraft and MS(we don't really know this) has pulled this act before. Take a look at the response Netware has when MC did a comparison with netware. http://www.novell.com/advantage/nw5/nw5-mindcraftcheck.html Philip Thiem -- PENQUIN-LOVER-CODER ALERT: ptt@umr.edu All windows user please exvacuate the building (So I can install a better OS on the comps) Pass on the GAS get NASM instead.