On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 04:09:57PM +0200, Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote:
> -> > if anyone will find he's usiong fake identd ppl will k-line him...
> -> > IRC is not made for putting bots and bots abuse IRC. if someone wants to
> -> > abuse IRC he will be banned.
> -> Well I have to agree...
> -> I personally almost never use IRC but...if a server admin doesn't want somone
> -> logging on and setting up multiple bots then that is their right. It is
> -> generally a free service afterall...
> -> if someone thinks it is sooo important that they have multiple bots
> -> they could always shell out a few bux a month for a T-1 and start their
> -> own IRC server.
> They usually can't connect server to IRC network then, nobody will connect
> IRC server just because someone want to have many bots...
> bots abuse the irc NETWORK, not just server (and users)
> -> of course...I have mixed feelings on spoofed identd itself...
> -> I had actually thought of playing with that...cuz I know some
> -> sites expect to find identd but... I dunno how much I like hte
> -> idea someone can so easily get my local username....
> -> I was thinking of something like just having it return back a random
> -> string of charicters every time it is querried...
> -> is there any real reason NOT to do this?
> hmmm there should be possibility to detect who is being queried and disable
> him access to IRC server; so for one user should be thew string always the
> same, even if it's not its username. Otherwise, the same will happen as if
> no ident would be on that machine - ppl would disable connecting to
> server/channels from the machine, not just form that user.
I was litterally meaning any reason not to do it on MY machine...
its an (almost) single user machine...and has no permamnant connection
to the net anyway ...I just am not sure I like the idea of identd running
and giving out my local username... (maybe im paranoid?)
I supose I could always just disable identd...but hat funis that?
There is no overkill in that :)
> There's so much abuse on IRC, ppl need to have way how to prevent someone
> from connecting IRC; of course user can move to another provider but that;s
> still better then nothing.
Thats one of the reasons I avoid irc...in the past more than 6 months I
think irc.debian.org has been the ONLY irc server I visited.
well no there was ONE other...awee man I forget :)
I remember I spent a short time a while back checking out IRC...never
got into it... people doing all sorts of nasty crap...
using the IRC ping to knock others offline...
I once ws with a feind and pinged him more than a coupla times...
and next thing I knew I was under attack by some automated
"Defense" script of his!
Of course noone abused it like one guy I know...
he would get on IRC and when he wanted to be an asshole he did NOT
ping through the IRC server... he had his own linux box on a colledge network..
he would just get their IP adress and ping flood them many times...
sent his own brother (who was on a 28.8 modem) over 5 MB worth of ICMP echo
requests! in a matter of a few seconds
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- Re: identd
- From: "Stephen J. Carpenter" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Re: identd
- From: Matus "fantomas" Uhlar <email@example.com>