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Re: teclat catala i "altres" caracters



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On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 07:29:28AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
> >  - Spanish keyboards are the most common in ca_AD as well as ca_ES, so we
> >    use it as default.
> >  - French and Italian keyboards aren't usable for writing in Catalan (missing
> >    characters in both), so if user picked Catalan as her language, she's most
> >    likely using a Catalan keyboard.
>
> Well, there does not seem to be such thing as a Catalan keyboard,

They're not commonly available in stores.  However, Large Format Computing, Inc
manufactures them and sells them worldwide.  See:

 http://www.language-keyboard.com/catalan.htm

> at
> least in those propsoed by d-i.....

That's what my patch is for :)

(unless I missed something)

> Catalan translators, could you please comment on #346298?

Since I CCed debian-user-catalan already when submitting this bug, I'm adding
CC to that list, too.

> My first reaction would be to say: if users choose a Catalan locale in
> France or Italy (well, the case of Italy/Sardinia is probably very
> theoretical, but anyway), they are very likely to use a Spanish
> keyboard, so we could be safe leaving Spanish keyboards for all
> Catalan installs.
>
> But I may be missing stuff here.

Spanish keyboards aren't available in stores in Italy or France.  Since they
have to order a keyboard from somewhere else for the specific purpose of writing
in Catalan, why would they prefer a keyboard that hasn't been specificaly
dessigned for writing in Catalan (the Spanish), before one that has been
dessigned specificaly for that purpose?

In Spain and Andorra, it is different:  Spanish keyboards are the "default".
They're available in stores, etc.

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Christian Perrier 	
<bubulle@debian.org> per a 346298, debian-l10n-ca., debian-user-ca.
	 Més opcions	  17 gen. (fa 21 hores)

> > Well, there does not seem to be such thing as a Catalan keyboard,
>
> They're not commonly available in stores.  However, Large Format Computing, Inc
> manufactures them and sells them worldwide.  See:
>
>   http://www.language-keyboard.com/catalan.htm
>
> > at
> > least in those propsoed by d-i.....
>
> That's what my patch is for :)

Ahem. I missed the added keymap, sorry. My mistake.

>
> (unless I missed something)
>
> > Catalan translators, could you please comment on #346298?
>
> Since I CCed debian-user-catalan already when submitting this bug, I'm adding
> CC to that list, too.

OK. I'd like to get the input from the Catalan users on these issues
(maybe you are among them, Robert....)

Adding the keymap you sent to console-data is certainly worth it
anyway. Adding it to the installer udeb is however of matter or real
use. It will add some KB to the initrd image size and the d-i team is
very conservative about its KBytes....and one thing we can tell is
that users choosing Catalan in France and Italy will be quite rare.


I'd rather propose to add the keymap without adding it to the udeb, at
least for now...unless Catalan users are *very* convincing, especially
those living near the center of the world, namely the Perpignan train
station.


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