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Re: is HAL going to be removed for the next stable?



On 4 March 2010 11:43, Jerome BENOIT <jgmb65@rezozer.net> wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> what about Xorg and HAL ?
>
> Jerome
>
> Pedro Ribeiro wrote:
>>
>> On 4 March 2010 03:01, Andreas Marschke <xxtjaxx@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am Donnerstag 04 März 2010 02:47:11 schrieb Pedro Ribeiro:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if anyone call tell me if there are any plans for the
>>>> next stable regarding HAL. Is Squeeze going to be shipped with HAL
>>>> disabled by default?
>>>>
>>>> Also, there is this mess going on now with devicekit-power / upower
>>>> and devicekit-disks / udisks, which is pretty much alpha software.
>>>>
>>>> I guess these two issues should delay Squeeze for some more?
>>>>
>>>> I already got word from the Debian GNOME maintainer that Squeeze is
>>>> probably going to ship 2.30, which should remove most HAL
>>>> dependencies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Pedro
>>>>
>>> Sorry for my unkowledge but how else than through HAL should one be able
>>> to
>>> talk to hardware in an bstracted easy way?
>>> If its actually removed (which I personally doubt will happen) should
>>> others
>>> like KDE manage hardware since they depend on it through solid afaik?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andreas Marschke.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> HAL has been deprecated and slated for removal for more than a year
>> now. The reason is that HAL is considered jack of all trades, master
>> of none, and hence a big pain in the a** to maintain. Note that this
>> is a HAL maintainers decision and opinion - I do not necessarily agree
>> with this, but its almost done now, so no turning back.
>>
>> udev is taking over most of the HAL's functions and the disk and power
>> management and being moved to udisk and upower respectively, with
>> minor functions in udev-utils.
>> You can find out more here:
>> http://wiki.debian.org/HALRemoval
>>
>> The problem with all this, is as said above, although udev is stable
>> and trustworthy, upower and udisks have a long way to go. Hence my
>> question, as I'm worried that this might delay Squeeze for a while.
>> GNOME 2.30 should have no HAL dependency, but I don't know about KDE.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pedro
>>
>>
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The latest version of xserver-xorg in Squeeze (1.7.5) does not rely on
hal anymore.

Regards,
Pedro


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