Re: Should su-to-root be shipped in a separate package?
On Mon, 04 Feb 08 12:40, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Armin Berres <trigger@space-based.de> writes:
>
> > Good question.
> > At least for KDE 4 Apps there is no Problem -- kdesu from KDE 4 is
> > always around if kdelibs5 (the KDE 4 libraries) is installed.
> > When you have a KDE 3 Desktop kdebase-bin is normally around so kdesu
> > should be there.
> > What about Gnome?
>
> It's pulled in by gnome-desktop-environment, so not quite as aggressively
> as KDE, but it's fairly reliably there.
OK, nice.
> > If yes I'd say programms should simply use su-to-root and not specify
> > any dependency like the above at all. I'd also say that packages which
> > just depend on a special *su implementation (just gksu and not
> > kdebase-bin e.g.) should be considered buggy. There is no reason for a
> > KDE user to install gksu and and no reason for a Gnome user to install
> > kdebase-bin if there is already a *su implementation around. I don't
> > know how many packages have this problem, but gparted just depends on
> > gksu for example. I bet it could also use kdesu, if su-to-root would be
> > used.
>
> An exception could possibly be made for things that really make no sense
> to run outside of that desktop environment, but yes, I generally agree.
Yes, sounds good.
So we really should make it some kind of policy to use su-to root and not
to depend on any graphical su-wrapper if there is no really good reason.
Cheers,
Armin
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