Thank you for the prompt response. Hmm, I didn't look at it that way. Has kmail always recommended kdepim-kio-plugins? If not, was it recommended during the dist-upgrade process? Again, you make a good case and I see things differently now. Sincerely, Josh Gilbert. On Wednesday 08 September 2004 07:03 pm, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > El Jueves, 9 de Septiembre de 2004 00:26, Josh Gilbert escribió: > > So at http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2004/08/msg00769.html I found > > a message explaining that you need to install kdepim-kio-plugins to get > > imap with kmail. The reason was that some users might want to use kmail > > to browse local mboxes. I put the message I found at the bottom of this, > > it appears to be the current last word. > > I'm using kmail for fetching only POP3 accounts. Why should we have to > install additional packages? This is bad for the mirrors, for the archive, > for the packagers, and of course, for users, etc. > > > I disagree extremely strongly with the idea that imap should be > > independent of kmail. My use case, a very common one I should think, is > > that I ran apt-get dist-upgrade (I run unstable) and kmail broke! I > > didn't install any > > No, it didn't broke, it's just that you are missing some functionality. > > > pim package, I needed kmail, I installed kmail. I got an error message > > when > > You are signing your message. Should kmail depend on gnupg? Or > spamassassin? > > > I tried to access an existing imap account, "could not start process for > > newimap". My response was to apt-cache search for imap. Failed. I now > > know that I could have apt-cache searched for newimap and found > > kdepim-kio-plugins. Silly me, I thought that newimap should parse to two > > tokens, "new imap". > > apt-cache show kmail | grep Recommends > > > Now, suppose that I was a user who didn't have root and my admin just > > apt-get upgrad'ed me. I would lose functionality and have no idea why and > > little recourse. Furthermore, I think that imap support should always > > come with kmail, as the commands are in the program. It is incredibly > > frustrating to have commands in the program which don't work. I think > > that this far outweighs the cost of having to download imap support. The > > default installation should not lead to a broken program! > > Sincerely, this admin isn't doing what he should. Debian packages have > relations. One is Depends, and other are Recommends and Suggests. If it's > absolutely necessary for package A to have installed package B, then this > is a dependency. If package C is not absolutely necessary for running A, > but most users will find it useful, thats a recommendation. > > At least, that is what I understand reading the Debian Policy: > http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps
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