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Bug#381267: qa.debian.org: Confuses NMU/QA and sponsor of NMU/QA



On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 08:57:14PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:20:32PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 11:37:17AM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:

> >> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=lmamane&comaint=yes says I've
> >> NMUed thinkpad, while what I've done is sponsor an NMU by
> >> jdthood@yahoo.co.uk.

> > [You] (among other things) should consider yourself responsible for
> > any bugs introduced in that upload.

> That is correct. But because I *sponsored* the upload doesn't mean the
> person that prepared is "off the hook".

True, but that didn't seem to be the issue you were raising in your bug
report; you seemed to be objecting to listing the package on your own QA
page, not to its absence from jdthood's page.

> > I think it's perfectly appropriate for the qa.d.o web pages to
> > facilitate this.

> It would do so just as effectively by listing thinkpad in the
> "sponsored upload" category (or a new "sponsored NMUs" category) on my
> page. It would be _more_ efficient by making that NMU appear (as an
> NMU) on jdthood@yahoo.co.uk's page (additionally to my page).

> > No, in fact, an NMU is a "non-maintainer upload".  You uploaded it,
> > so you performed an NMU,

> That's ridiculous. So if I merely signed it and I let
> jdthood@yahoo.co.uk do the actual FTP upload of the material prepared
> by him and signed by me, it would change anything? Actually, the web
> page has no idea that this is not what happened.

> jtdhood prepared the new version, he did the work => credit is
> his. He's the NMUer. I implemented the "have a DD check this non-DD
> (and hence untrusted)" step. The sponsorship.

You're welcome to credit anyone you want, but if you sign an NMU, it's you
that I intend to hold responsible for the contents.  Your responsibility
as someone uploading (or authorizing the upload of) changes to another
maintainer's package is to *personally* verify that these changes are
appropriate and correct, and to remedy them if you are mistaken.  This is
not a responsibility that can be delegated, and so for all intents and
purposes, this is your NMU at least as much as it is the NMU of the
sponsoree.

> To take it from the other side, do you think it is a bug that the PTS
> shows Thomas Hood's name, and not mine?

I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
vorlon@debian.org                                   http://www.debian.org/

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