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Re: About the KDE issue.



--- KaHa <kaha@coinet.com> wrote:
> YES.

Especially so in the publicity field.  I, obviously, cannot use MicroDozer
Powerpoint, Kpresenter is their only competition.


> (My two bits)
> 
> <introduction> Been reading this list for some time; thought I'd jump in
> on this topic. Handshakes all around.  :-)
> </introduction>
> 
> There appears to be a lot of confusion on this issue; a clarifying
> pointer would IMO be a Good Thing.
> 
> Fabien Ninoles wrote:
> > I got a lot of questions about Debian not distributing KDE. Most people
> > point me to the 'Qt issue' page on the KDE web site. (http://www.kde.org).
> > Although they only tell the truth, the KDE people seems to simply miss
> > or ignoring the point of the conflict between the GPL and the QPL(1).
> > I'm a bit boring about this issue and think it makes bad press to Debian
> > since we are the only distribution to not include KDE.
> > 
> > Should we make a 'KDE issue' page to explain why Debian are so 'injust'
> > against KDE? The page should said:
> > 
> > - that Debian recognize the Qt libraries as free software and included it
> >   in it's official distribution, as well as other softwares based on qt2.0
> > - Point out the problem with some KDE projects (kghostview is a pretty
> >   good example, IMHO).
> > - Offers some possible solutions as *suggestions* about how to finally
> >   make KDE distributable (the removal of the conflicting clause from the
> >   QPL or adding the exception clause to the GPL Licensing term for Qt
> >   based programs).
> > - Point out the unofficial site to get the KDE debs (http://kde.tdyc.net/)
> >   but with some warnings about the licensing issues previously explain.
> > 
> > We should be careful so that we can warn people about the importance of
> > the issue (which dilued greatly the strength of the GPL) without flaming
> > either TrollTech or the KDE project, which we'll not help at all. That's
> > why I'm asking you some advices.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Fabien
> > 
> > (1): IMNSHO, KDE is ignoring the point because they will have to give up
> > some important parts of their project (like kghostview) if they admit
> > the case. So it's either to change all licenses or none and ignoring the
> > issue. Currently, the first one is merely impossible so they have to
> > choose the second solution which just make some important clauses of the
> > GPL a joke. All IMHO, of course. I doesn't even try to contact the KDE
> > people about this.
> > 
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