Don't know much about these people (was at work, so didn't check too much), but at http://www1.100hot.com/unix the debian site is listed as the #8 most popular unix site (out of 40 someodd rather than 100). Dres -- @James LewisMoss <dres@ioa.com> | Blessed Be! @ http://www.ioa.com/~dres | Linux is kewl! @"Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours." Bach