Re: Report from DSA Team Sprint in Oslo
NB CCing SPI treasurer as a contact listed on the donations page
(haven't spotted any point of contact on Debian's donation page)
for possible comments
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 05:34:27PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> > - automated regular (e.g. monthly) donations via paypal
> > (e.g. how http://accessiblecomputingfoundation.org does it)
> That is already possible (although I'm not sure about the paypal part):
> when donating to SPI via clickandpledge, one could choose to split his
> donation in monthly batches. Given I'm well aware this feature is
> largely unknown (although some donors *do* use it), I encourage
> proposing patches to http://www.debian.org/donations to better advertise
> it.
Decided to have a look finally (sorry -- never donated money to Debian
myself yet) -- and as a new-comer I see multiple problems with Debian
"donation" system as we have it ATM (some of the following items
might not be easily "fixable" since need to be addressed by 3rd party
clickandpledge.com).
The quick summary -- donating to Debian is NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT COULD
BE... and simplicity and "accessibility" was the point of my
suggestion to make donations, of different caliber, easy for anyone.
ATM to donate
* I do need to spend some time to read/go through a few pages (debian
donations, SPI donations -> clickandpledge...) to get finally to the
point where I could possibly donate my money... the whole path is
probably around 6/7 web pages or so (if everything goes smooth),
requires me to enter all my credentials, credit card # ...
We should aim to reduce the burden and make it much easier by allowing
to use payment providers which already might have users credentials so
they might not even need to re-login to them at that point; e.g.
paypal, amazon, ...
* Debian is one (thanks that it starts with D so it is high enough
in the list) among others on
https://co.clickandpledge.com/advanced/default.aspx?wid=34115
There must be a dedicated page to avoid any possible confusion, avoid
clicking through 1 more page. I understand it is useful in general to
expose all those other projects under SPI, but imho it hurts Debian in
this regard
* "A $40.00 minimum is needed for the recurring payment option"
doesn't sound appealing to me and ruins the whole idea of
regular micro donations. I would not mind giving a project I like/use a
cost of a coffee regularly each month, but I would think a bit longer
if it equals my monthly charge for the broadband (just giving typical
analogies)
it might all be due to high credit-card transaction costs, but
* "Please do not attempt to donate to SPI via PayPal or a similar
service." stated on the lengthy http://www.spi-inc.org/donations/
We should be able to allow donations via PayPal "or a similar service"
with a direct link available on our (Debian) donations page
or is there some showstopper I am not aware of?
* also as long as I entered that "unacceptably low donation" this
annoying dialog box with "A $40.00 min..." hunts me -- I can't go back
to adjust amount, I am just doomed to close that tab and go back to
starting url there manually or from http://www.debian.org/donations
needs to be fixed on clickandpledge.com side I guess
* blank "Terms & Conditions" on checkout page is kinda confusing --
better not be there at all if nothing to say
* not sure if intended to be like that (limit in length) or just a typo
I understand that this charge will appear as "Software in the
PublicI" on my credit card statement.
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