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Re: Switching the default startup method



Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Andreas Barth wrote:
>> We should definitly continue to support oldstyle booting, at least for
>> the time being.
> 
> Until what? Missing boot-time dependencies were the only problem that had
> to be adressed to fix boot sequence ordering.
> 
> Sure administrators will have to learn tweaking init scripts dependencies
> instead of tweaking numbers but one always has something to learn when
> upgrading to a newer version.

And if they don't want to switch? Where is the choice to choose the default you
prefer?

>>> I think the missing point here is that insserv is just one of the ways to
>>> fix the problem of having to guess a correct start number, among many
>>> others; and any system that doesn't implement that is actually a
>>> regression. There are other tools similar to insserv that also do
>>> dependency-based booting (but AFAIK none of them are in Debian).
>> So you are telling us here that anyone who depends on the 20+ years
>> working method of ordering boot with decimal numbers is using a
>> regression?
> 
> They are relying on an inferior system and the fact that they are used to
> it doesn't change anything on its inferior design.

No, decimal numbers are the superior design here as they just work without any
magic. One of the reasons I migrated away from SuSE long time ago was the mess
called insserv...

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