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Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes



Otavio, let me make it clear for all readers that you're talking on
behalf of debian installer team.

I'm sure d-i team is very important to RM team. Communication is far
from being a strong quality of this project, with that in mind could
you please try to dissociate a little from the whole thing and raise
points against a time-based release freeze from d-i team point of
view?

I really want to know, but from your previous message all I see is
"screw you RM team, you talked to Ubuntu folks and didn't talk to our
direct peers so we will make that fail". I'm sorry if it wasn't the
statement you wanted to share.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Otavio
Salvador<otavio@ossystems.com.br> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Bernhard R. Link<brlink@debian.org> wrote:
>> * Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> [090729 18:22]:
>>> Please, everybody, stop this kind of "you evil DebConf attendees have
>>> decided for us all" arguments. The "time-based freeze" has been
>>> announced/proposed during a talk at DebConf; it was fresh news for the
>>> attendees as it was fresh news for everybody else receiving it via
>>> -announce a few hours later.
>>
>> Well, it was not totally fresh news. After all there was already
>> http://derstandard.at/1246541995003/Interview-Shuttleworth-about-GNOME-30---Whats-good-whats-missing-what-needs-work
>> (which was linked from slashdot and other sides).
>
> It is quite nice to notice that _our_ /dear/ Release Team was in touch
> with Ubuntu (nothing wrong with that) but forgot to get in touch with
> us ;-)
>
> There's nothing wrong and discuss plans with other projects and share
> ideas; what is completely wrong is to not discuss it with us specially
> because WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE IT (NOT) HAPPEN.
>
>> Not sure if this makes the situation much better. But it was not
>> actually totally surprising.
>
> Sure it helps; it makes clear the importance we have for RM people.
>
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regards,
-- Gustavo "stratus" Franco


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