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Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

> On 23/10/08 at 12:05 -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>> Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>> 
>> > On 22/10/08 at 23:33 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> > 
>> >> and keyring managers
>> >> would like to remain the authoritative source for "who is in Debian".
>> > 
>> > Indeed, that's a problem. What about changing the DM process so that
>> > keyring managers are responsible for this keyring as well?
>> 
>> That's what he said:
> 
> What I meant was: What about *simply* changing the DM process so that
> keyring managers are responsible for this keyring as well, and dropping
> all the other changes in Joerg's mail?

Oh, ok.

> 
>> > Changes to the DM Keyring
>> >  -------------------------
>> >  Keyring management will be moved to the control of keyring-maint.  The
>> >  NM committee will decide who will be added or removed, similiar to the
>> >  way keyring-maint and DAM currently work together.
>> 
>> [...]
>> >> They are allowed to upload their own (source) package. The allowed list
>> >> of (source) packages to upload can be edited by any member of the NM
>> >> committee[NMC], who will do a package check before they add new packages
>> >> to the DM's list.
>> > 
>> > There's a problem with DM currently: it doesn't work well with massively
>> > comaintained packages. For example, if you have:
>> > - a team with DMs DMa and DMb
>> > - DMa became DM to maintain Pa
>> > - DMb became DM to maintain Pb
>> > - DMa wants to help with the maintainance of Pb, but should not be given
>> >   upload rights for Pb
>> > - DMb wants to help with the maintainance of Pa, but should not be given
>> >   upload rights for Pa
>> 
>> That's not a problem which should be solved by a technical "workaround". If
>> you are not confident enough that either DMa won't upload Pb or DMb won't
>> upload Pa then why are you giving her/him rights to change anything in either
>> Pa or Pb?
> 
> DM was sold as a "limited upload rights" solution. I think that
> some people did not realize that it wasn't that simple: some people
> might have the right to upload stuff "by mistake" because of this design
> flaw.
> 
>> It's like if you wanted to limit what packages DDs can upload and which not.
> 
> Aren't we talking about DM?

Yes, we are; it was just a way to say that the idea of over limiting what
packages can be uploaded is nonsense.

Cheers,
-- 
Raphael Geissert - Debian Maintainer
www.debian.org - get.debian.net



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