Re: Advice on a iBook ...
I thought about all this before purchasing my iBook2 and came down to a
couple deciding factors:
1. The TiBook is bigger than what I wanted
2. The TiBook has a fan that makes it louder than the iBook2
(iBook2 would be silent if not for the HD/CDROM)
3. Eventually I can move some resisters and up the bus speed
on my iBook2 to 100mhz (and put in a bigger hd at the same time)
66mhz bus was my largest drawback.
4. The iBook2 is faster than my Celeron 433 desktop.
5. iBook2 from outpost.com came with free 128 ram upgrade
6. Built in wireless antennas
7. None of the x86 size/weight comparable machines came with
cd built in (or they cost $1000 more than the top iBook2)
8. x86 machines are cheap but they drop their clock speed to
get comparable battery life.
9. The apple displays seem better than others
10. I'm tired of x86, I wanted to try something different
Plus it's just freakin cool to burn cds and watch dvds from a laptop
(although not at the same time!)
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 10:15:33AM -0400, Blake Carlson wrote:
> I've seen some good discussion about the G3 vs. G4 on this
> thread, but you all are neglecting the rest of the system when
> comparing the TiBook vs. iBook2.
> TiBook as 100MHz bus vs. 66MHz in iBook2. This is a *big* deal.
> Also, the TiBook has large 1MB cache running at 200MHz vs. iBook2's
> 256KB cache running at full clock (500MHz). So, depending on your
> app and how it uses the cache, you could see some major performance
> differences here. The iBook2 will win if the cache requirements are
> small (disregard AltiVec for now) and TiBook will kill the iBook2
> as soon as the cache requirements go up.
> For me, I was hesitant about investing in old processor technology.
> I wanted the fast system bus, more RAM expansion, and a big cache
> since I think that will be more useful. I'm also interested in
> MacOS and I think that Aqua (or whatever it's called) must be tapping
> into the AltiVec ... yikes! The DVD stuff is nice, but not a deciding
> factor since I already have another standalone player.
> The key is overall system balance and a little planning for how you
> want to use the laptop in the future. It's a tough choice, but once
> you get things configured the price difference is about $500.
> -- Blake
> Michel D?nzer wrote:
> >On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 11:53, Rog?rio Brito wrote:
> >> My most advanced projects as a user are watching DivX movies,
> >> encoding MP3s with lame and playing files with xmms. I'd like
> >> to take the lowest (i.e., cheapest) processor that could make
> >> me watch the DivX movies without skipping.
> >The G3 is basically enough for that, it works fairly well even on my 400
> >MHz Pismo. Yesterday I had a conversation with someone on IRC who
> >suggested there might currently be problems with the dmasound drivers on
> >iBook2s which prevent smooth playback though.
> >The G4 can be several times as fast if Altivec is used, it's about the
> >same speed otherwise.
> >> And what is the status of playing DVDs with an iBook2 or a
> >> TiBook?
> >The TiBook is apparently fine now that vlc supports Altivec, the iBook2
> >is probably on the edge. I think it will be very hard to achieve perfect
> >playback on a G3 without hardware iDCT and/or motion compensation.
> >> What about the region thing (i.e., the drives are
> >> unfortunately RPC2, right)?
> >The free players don't care about that. :)
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