On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 11:10:31AM +0800, LI Daobing wrote: > He has become Debian maintainer since 2010-02-27, it's a little short > between the end of DM process and the start of DD process, but the DD > process is very long, so we still have enough time to check his skill > and perseverance on Debian project. > And Debian is really lack of manpower. Sorry for my delay, I have been caught in a mix of family business and ash clouds. I am afraid I have a bit of a problem with your advocacy. Please see: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/11/msg00005.html Advocation in the NM process ---------------------------- [...] When you advocate a person, you are saying that they need and should get unsupervised upload rights on the entire archive, right now. In the past some people were advocated who at the time had not yet done any Debian related work. Please only advocate people who have contributed to Debian already, don't advocate someone that you expect will get involved in Debian later on. Having to cancel an application, or having someone disappear while in the NM process, is a waste of time and motivation for everyone involved. As such, we prefer that people who want to apply to NM have been active in Debian for a while already, and have built up some experience. In the last few months, we've already redirected some people to the DM process when we felt that they were not ready to become a DD yet, and we will continue to do so. Please consider this an official policy as of now. Please note that I am not questioning Luke's knowledge, motivation or experience, since I do not yet know anything about them. There used to be a habit of advocating people for DD early, reasoning that NM takes a long time and there will be an AM checking the applicant anyway. We found that this approach was one of the main reasons the NM process took a long time, and that since now with sponsorship and then DM there are plenty of ways to gain Debian experience, it's best to reduce the NM process to a quick "oh, yes, indeed you're good"[1], which makes it easier for the applicant as well as for the AM. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontDesk/Tips So I'd rather you advocated Luke when you know he should get an account ASAP, make a good case for it, and then we get him an account ASAP, than risking to start a long, hideous mix of AM/mentoring that would be a waste of time and enthousiasm both for Luke (who could have more fun, and learn more, doing actual real Debian work) and for the AM. Ciao, Enrico -- GPG key: 4096R/E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org>
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