Re: export to embargo countries
It is my understanding that if the U.S. has embargoed
trade with another nation, nothing can be traded,
legally. Also, it has been awhile since I checked the
current export laws on encryption, but at one time no
encryption capabilities could be exported to any
nation in digital form, only book or other hard-copy
The following two links should prove to be useful for
and http://pmddtc.state.gov/country.htm One is from
the U.S. Dept. of Commerce and the other is the U.S.
State Dept. Both have a good deal of information on
If my information is inaccurate, please feel free to
Before you take any action, check with an attorney.
An attorney will be best equipped to give you a
summary of current export laws and regulations,
including exporting to embargoed nations. This way,
you'll know for certain and if the answer turns out to
be no completely, you have wasted no time working on
Good luck, I hope you are successful and able to
accomplish your goal.
--- Frank Lenaerts <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 03:17:58PM +0400, olive
> > Frank Lenaerts wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I have been reading
> http://www.debian.org/legal/cryptoinmain to find
> > >out what it takes to create a product using
> Debian GNU/Linux as
> > >operating system. Pointers to more recent
> information are welcome.
> > >
> > >Am I correct that, in order to be able to export
> a product using
> > >Debian GNU/Linux, to countries under US embargo,
> I would have to
> > >remove all encryption related material?
> > >
> > >If so, what does "remove" mean then? Would I have
> to rebuild
> > >everything without encryption or would it be
> enough to remove
> > >applications like for instance ssh?
> > >
> > >
> > >cu,
> > >
> > From previous discussions, I don't think
> *licenses* can prevent you to
> Any pointers to previous discussions?
> > export to a country under US embargo (such a
> license would be non free).
> I agree.
> > US laws might prevent from doing this if you are a
> US citizen (or live
> It think it even goes further i.e. I don't think
> this is limited to US
> citizens. As I understand it, nobody (worldwide) is
> allowed to export
> anything (free software and proprietary software)
> encryption to the US embargo countries.
> > in the US) but this is not the topic of this list.
> I am not a US citizen
> > (nor does I live in the US) but I think that you
> can't export anything
> I think you can as long as it doesn't contain
> encryption (in this
> context). Question is how far you have to go i.e.
> compile a whole
> distro from source without any encryption (Is this
> possible at all?
> That's a lot more work!) or just use an existing
> distro and limit
> functionality (It works and you can reuse more.).
> > from the US to a country under US embargo. Of
> course nothing prevent a
> > user living in a country under US embargo to
> download Debian from a
> > non-US mirror.
> That's another discussion.
> > All of this is just my understanding of the
> current situation, it is not
> > a legal advise (for that you have to consult your
> > Olive
> "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to
> reinvent it, poorly."
> -- Henry Spencer
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