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Re: Clarification regarding PHP License and DFSG status



On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:39:52 -0500
Charles Fry <debian@frogcircus.org> wrote:

> [Pierre, note the note for you at the bottom.]

> "PHP software" should NOT be understood as "a piece of software in the
> PHP language" as you propose, but rather as software distributed by
> the PHP Group at http://www.php.net/software/.
> 
> In other words, this license is still not acceptable for software that
> is not available from the PHP Group at http://www.php.net/software/.

The sentence was changed to reflect facts, a software contains PHP
Softwares, which are available from the url you gave (given that you
have to click).

> > Perhaps it would be better to have the disclaimer talk about
> > the authors instead of the PHP development team? Right now,
> > only the PHP team gets the benefit of the disclaimer, not the
> > authors of the software.
> > 
> > IN NO EVENT SHALL THE PHP DEVELOPMENT TEAM OR ITS CONTRIBUTORS BE
> > LIABLE FOR ANY ... DAMAGES
> 
> Good point. I am CCing Pierre on this issue so that he can bring it
> before the PHP Group.
> 
> But I don't see this preventing Debian from distributing Pear packages
> licensed under the new PHP License.


Thanks, I hardly discussed those points with Rasmus, Derick and other
people there. These changes reflect the maximum they will ever do.
I will not ask more changes, it will bring  way too much troubles on my
back.

Anyway you are right, the license is actually correct. I would love
to have a better license for php (like the new BSD or a GPL compatible)
but I doubt that will ever happen, sorry.

I will still try to put a note in the pear manual to encourage the
usage of other licenses (like bsd or lgpl), people are getting tired to
"waste" time with legal problems instead of hacking :)

Thanks for your work and keep me informed if there is any other
troubles,

Cheers,
--Pierre



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