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Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...



On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 08:57:59PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> On Thursday 08 September 2005 20:24, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:53:12PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> > > On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:21, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > --cut--
> > >
> > > > Yeah, well, i did an apt-get install star and looked at the copyright
> > > > file, so i am not sure what facts i have to believe then.
> > > >
> > > > > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/star/star_1.4a17-3/
> > > > >star .copyright
> > > > >
> > > > > Took about ten seconds to find out it was GPL before upstream
> > > > > relicensed and debian maint just copied that.
> > > >
> > > > Ah, ok, nice to know.
> > >
> > > Note that the latest upstream development version is star-1.5a67.tar.gz
> > > [1] and is CDDL licensed with the following slight modifications:
> >
> > Which constitutes a trademark violation at the very least (it's not
> > the CDDL any more) and quite probably a copyright one (the CDDL isn't
> > modifiable).
> 
> Interestingly enough he has already been told that he violates the CDDL itself 
> [1]. Also a good dispute starts here (as mentioned by someone above) [2] and 
> what I was surprised was the vigorous pushing of star and cddl into the obsd 
> tree.

Yes, altough he told me that :

  1) Debian has accepted the CDDL as DFSG free, and as proof the star package
  is in.

  2) Any argument i may have are only the lame repetition of the opinion of a
  single person here on debian-legal.

> So there are at least two kind of problems with cddl:
> *modifications in a weird way - which doesn't fit into the spirit of BSD
> *choice-of-venue and choice-of-law - floating sandy layers which could be 
> dangerous for anyone on the Earth IMHO.
> 
> [1] http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-02/0407.html
> [2] http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-02/thread.html#399
> 
> I feel that the author will convert sooner or later smake and cdrecord to cddl 
> as a part of his anti-GPL campaign.

Oh, he is the cdrecord guy.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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