On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 08:55:53AM -0500, Michael Poole wrote: > Andrew Suffield writes: > > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 12:36:30PM +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > Requiring layered formats for > > > source is also going to result in PNGs being non-free in many cases. > > > > This sort of mindless sophistry accomplishes nothing. Requiring source > > does not make programs non-free. Failing to provide source is what > > makes programs non-free. The contents of the Debian archive is not > > non-free just because we require source. > > Who is being a mindless sophist? People who scream every time we find a package with missing source, because obviously it's impossible that any such package could ever be distributed with source, and so by finding them we're making them non-free. It gets really tiresome. Like the people who blame bug reporters, as if the bug didn't exist before it was reported. > Take, for example, > /usr/share/doc/doc-iana/cctld/jp/sakamoto-sig.jpg from doc-iana, > currently in main. It is a JPEG of a signature. We cannot distribute > Sakamoto-san. The image was produced in Photoshop, which means there > may not be a precursor file that is freely manipulable. What is > source? <snip rest of examples> Wrong part of the thread, we've been here already. This is not directly relevant. > > In most cases, requiring layered formats for source is going to result > > in getting layered formats for source. It is obviously the correct > > thing to be distributing; upstreams who have it but don't distribute > > it probably just didn't think of it. > > In a significant number of cases, requiring layered formats for source > will mean that DDs must create DFSG-sanitized "orig" tarballs by > removing images that upstream distributes. Or by adding images that upstream did not distribute. You're doing it as well. "Delete it" is *not* the only possible answer to a buggy package. Stop pretending that it is. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- |
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