Computer Associates released Ingres under this license: http://opensource.ca.com/projects/ingres/ http://www3.ca.com/Solutions/Collateral.asp?CID=61384 Is this really free software license? If it is, who will package Ingres, then? -- Juhapekka "naula" Tolvanen * http colon slash slash iki dot fi slash juhtolv "sinun kauneutesi kaataa valtakuntia. minun pimeyteni raiskaa runoutta." CMX