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It seems there have been some news. As it has been announced in deb-usr-sp,
I'll do a summary here. I also include the full text in spanish. I've
annotated the tranlatoin with brackets '[' ']'.

In barrapunto it has appered a note that is suposed to be from CEINTEC, the
company that was said to have registered Debian.

Please, if anyone sees any mistake in the translation or doesn't understand
a word, forgive me, and don't doubt to ask :) My English is not very good.

The note says:

«About the comment published in bp.com on sep-3 2002, CEINTEC wants to point
out that:

[...]

Ceintec did not register the TM Debian.

[...]

Debian was registered  by a person related to CENITEC, by him or herself
[not in the name of CEINTEC] on September of 2000, when he/she noticed that
some oother names related to Free Soft were being registered by other
trades.

We [CEINTEC] know that the intention of that person was to protect the mark
Debian precisely to avoid others to register it and forbide its use by
others (including CEINTEC).

We [CEINTEC] know that this person has never oposed to the use of Debian
and, of course, that person guarantees that this won't happen in the future
(while the GNU philosophy is respected).

We [CEINTEC] also know that he/she would give it (now and before) to any
Government Institution that guarantees that the whole community can use it
freely and that promisses to renew and defend while the distribution
[Debian, I understand] exists.

[...]»


 «Respecto al comentario publicado en barrapunto.com el 3/9/02 CEINTEC
quiere realizar las siguientes puntualizaciones:

Que Ceintec ha defendido y apostado por Linux y el software libre desde
1995. Como se puede comprobar en su Web http://www.ceintec.com

Que ha implementado Linux en sus programas de formación cuando nadie hablaba
de Linux y muy pocos lo defendían.

Que Ceintec no registró la marca Debian.

Que la distribución que imparte es RED HAT (no Debian) por lo que no se le
puede acusar de "vender cursos de Debian".

Que Ceintec, siempre que puede, hace publicidad gratuita de las
distribuciones no comerciales de Linux (como Debian).

Debian fue registrada por una persona relacionada con la empresa a titulo
particular y lo hizo en septiembre del 2000, cuando comprobó que otros
nombres relacionados con el soft libre habían sido registrados en España por
otras empresas.

Nos consta que la intención de esa persona fue proteger la marca Debian
precisamente para evitar que otros la registraran e impidieran a los demás
(incluido Ceintec) utilizarla.

Sabemos que en todo este tiempo no se ha opuesto al uso de Debian y que por
supuesto esa persona garantiza que tampoco lo hará en el futuro (siempre que
se respete la filosofía GNU).

Así mismo nos consta su disposición a traspasarla (ahora y antes) a
cualquier Institución Estatal que garantice que toda la comunidad pueda
utilizar libremente la marca Debian y que se comprometa a renovarla y
defenderla hasta que la distribución deje de existir.

Incluso RED HAT defiende la protección de un nombre con su registro de la
marca SW (ver en barrapunto el comentario: RED HAT y las patentes del
articulo relacionado: More on patentes, o bien:
http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html ) y la pone a disposición de
la comunidad de software libre.»



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Ignacio García Fernández                      <ignacio.garcia@uv.es>
Instituto de Robótica.                        
Universidad de Valencia.                            Tlf. 96 398 3583

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