Re: create a documentation packages for each laptop brand - summary
Ay, caramba. I am _really_ sorry for the delays. Poor
Riccardo suggested this back in *July* and I'm just now
getting around to following up. Stupid day job :(.
OTOH, here is what I have finally been able to get done:
-- I scrounged some space for a Subversion repository on
a fairly reliable server. Alioth seems too fragile,
my ISP was _not_ cooperative, so I dod what I could.
A longer term home elsewhere would be good. In the
meantime, you can do the following to see what I've
put together so far:
$ svn co svn://svn.toolchain.org/svn/laptop-doc
Please read the READMEs to review the use model I was playing
with, and try out the scripts, and let me know what you think.
-- You can install truly experimental versions of the possible
packages by adding the following to your sources.list:
deb http://toolchain.org/~ahs3/ /
deb-src http://toolchain.org/~ahs3 /
# apt-get install laptop-doc-dev laptop-doc-common
You can pick up the packages directly from:
-- I have not created an actual set of docs for a laptop
yet, though the 'laptop-doc-dev' puts together the tools
to make that possible. Contributions are welcome :). I'll
start building one for the hp nc6000 as soon as I can.
-- I decided on using docbook format for the content -- really
just an extension of Riccardo's example in XML. Best
I can tell, this should give us the greatest flexibility;
let me know if there's better ideas, though. The laptop-doc-dev
package provides a skeleton docbook file that needs a LOT
of work (it's not that extensive of a skeleton).
Again, I apologize for the delays. Hopefully, Riccardo will
still talk to me after all this time :)... and, I hope folks
are still interested in pursuing his proposal...
Holler if there's any questions/comments/concerns/ideas or
On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 09:45, Riccardo Vestrini wrote:
> I tried to create a sort of skeleton of a debian package, one which is
> supposed to contain info for toshiba laptops
> (i realized that there are too many series of laptops -- may be it is
> better to create a documentation package for each brand)
> and one which is supposed to contain info for laptops in general
> source packages are attached ... they are only a few Kb ...
> obviously they are incomplete, I will add something in the next days
> PLEASE do not su -c "dpkg -i " them! it will be useless and dangerous,
> do not populate your laptop with broken packages :)
> inside doc-laptop I tried to create a script which is supposed to gather
> useful information and organize them inside an xml file, if we are
> able to obtain (more automatically possible, may be asking questions
> with debconf?) informations about used configuration and working devices
> we can create a template of a web page and then submit that to
> i thought about xml since it could be easy emailed to an hipotetical
> package mainteiner and trasformed into a web page
> Al Stone wrote:
> > Hm. If no one else wants, to I'm foolish enough
> > and interested enough to try to organize this effort.
> may be that in the mean time organization will be enought if you (or
> some other) can obtain/provide a cvs/arch repository, so that interested
> people can begin putting information
> > Just don't make me regret it :-)...
> I will personally take any effort to fill-up you email and damage your
> website :)
> > What I would also like to suggest is that we find
> > some way to cooperate with tuxmobil and linux-on-laptops
> > -- we use their info and we share with them what we
> > gather. I think everyone would win if they get up-to-date
> > info -- which means we get it, too -- and they end up
> > with an easy way to redistribute their info and keep
> > it up-to-date for their users.
> what about creating an html report for each debian laptop user?
> in exchange each doc-vendor package mainteiner will grab information
> from their site from time to time
> I think there are enought interested people, I will post from time to
> time these two packages; i'm not able to set up a source repository (may
> be on september, when i will come back to university i will)
> I will do a brief summary of interested people
> Robert Goley wrote: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > I like the idea and would be willing to contribute. I have access to a
> > few laptops. I am relatively new to debian packaging though. I have
> > created some basic configuration packages.
> Ralph Crongeyer wrote: email@example.com
> > I think that is a great! idea. Maybe two packages though laptop-common
> > and laptopbrand-laptopseries.
> > And "maybe" (just a thought) have say,
> > laptop-common install a set of packages common to all laptops and
> > laptopbrand-laptopseries install a set of packages specific for that
> > brand and series as well as the other information you listed below.
> > Then the user would have a basic setup for their laptop that worked
> > and then
> > he could read through the documentation to find out more information.
> > Just my thoughts.
> i'm a little dubious about that ... probably it is better to stick at
> simple documentation, for now
> Werner Heuser wrote: <Werner.Heuser@web.de>
> > For the laptop-common package you may take the
> > "Unofficial Debian Laptop Proposal" into account:
> > http://tuxmobil.org/debian_linux.html
> > It includes a suggestion of Debian packages suitable for
> > laptops.
> i will download the page soon
> Al Stone wrote: firstname.lastname@example.org
> > This is an excellent idea. I'm willing to help, too.
> Charles Plessy wrote: email@example.com
> > Maybe you could prepare a sort of template, so that it would
> > be possible to contribute patches, without having to spend hours
> > thinking how to organise the informations ?
> Antonio Expósito Lorenzo wrote: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > Good idea, but who will be its manager?
> i vote for the first who will provide a cvs repository :)
> Robin Haunschild wrote: <H@unschild.de>
> > I have a new Acer Aspire 1513LMi and would like to share my
> > experiences. ;)
> > When I have time, I write a report for l-o-l and tuxmobile. If Your idea
> > with the Debian-package will come, I would like to write a package for
> > the Acer AspireLMi.
> Emmanuel Halbwachs wrote: <Emmanuel.Halbwachs.NoSpam@lpn.cnrs.fr>
> > I like the idea.
> > I unfortunately have no time to help the developpement but if I can
> > help by testing on my laptop or re-reading, I shurely will add
> > my 2 cents.
> Romana Branden wrote: <email@example.com>
> > oddly enough, halfway through my howto on acer aspire 1350 with sid, and
> > wireless cards/usb stuff.
> > (REALLY rough draft form, incomplete, but enough to get idea:
> > http://www.timelady.com/~romana/acer.html
> > bult a custom kernel for this boxen as a deb i'd be happy to contribute
> > too:)
> > i'd be happy to be involved further.....
> -- sorry for the others, I was tired of killing and yanking :) ---
Al Stone Alter Ego:
Linux & Open Source Lab Debian Developer
Hewlett-Packard Company http://www.debian.org
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