Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <[🔎] 200904090054.49296.suy@badopi.org>, Alejandro Exojo wrote: >> El Miércoles, 8 de Abril de 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. escribió: >>> IMO: >>> Even if you *know* the bug is a problem caused by upstream, you should >>> probably file it on the Debian BTS if it affects Debian. This way it will >>> show up in automated reports for the status of bugs in >>> stable/testing/unstable and persons watching the package through PTS will >>> be notified. Bug reports are actually one of the main metrics used to >>> determine when a new version of Debian is ready to be released -- if there >>> are bugs that affect Debian but are only reported upstream, that metric >>> reduces in value. > > Another good reason to file bugs that affect Debian in the DBTS even if they > are already upstream: apt-listbugs. > >> Are you aware about how many Debian packagers has the Qt/KDE team? Do you >> imagine how many time is needed to handle this? And not only the KDE people, >> but other teams as well. > > If Debian can't shoulder the burden of maintaining KDE, they shouldn't be > packaging it. Debian maintainers should be ready to receive bug reports from > Debian users. I should not have to run another distribution or compile KDE > from source before I file a bug. > >> As Sune said, it's impossible for the Debian people to handle this, > > No its not. It takes effort. But that effort is required of every Debian > maintainer. Can you think how fast a RFS on the debian-mentors list would be > denied if accompanied by "I won't have time to deal with bugs, please file > them all upstream."? > > I am NOT saying I don't appreciate the effort the maintainers are putting > forth now. If I could get both my jobs and the development I do for my local > charity in hand, I'd pitch in and help. But, wrangling bugs is *just* *as* > *important* as packaging new versions. It may not be quite as "sexy", but it > makes for better software, not just more of it. > Honestly, I'm sick of reading this kind of bullshit. Who are you to tell other people what they have to do or not. If you are not willing to help yourself, then please refrain from demanding what others have to do for you. This kind of bull shits only demotivates people who are actually doing the work. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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