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apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming



I'd like to try out the upgrade path from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.2.2 using
the Woody debs that someone (Andreas Mueller ?) has posted at
download.kde.org.

My system is running vanilla Woody, apart from XFree86 which I
upgraded from Woody's 4.1.0 to backports.org's 4.2.1 some while back.
I'm currently running the Ralf Nolden download.k.o KDE 3.1.4 debs.

If I use "apt-get -s (dist-)upgrade" to see what the upgrade proposes,
I get totally scary output for both cases.

Since people keep telling us that apt-get is braindead, and that
aptitude does a better job, I tried that too, with similarly scary
results.  Since aptitude's output is more compact, I include it here.

As you can see, a plain "upgrade" will only upgrade my XFree86, plus
some random _parts_ of KDE (the rest would be _removed_).

On the other hand, a "dist-upgrade" would do much the same *and* would
_remove_ huge unrelated, and in some cases *vital* parts of my system
... such as MySQL, Samba, PPP, Freeswan, man-db, fetchmail, htdig,
ssh, gcc, etc., etc.

Anyone got any clue as to whether this is tractable, or is something
badly broken to the point of uselessness here ?

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# aptitude -s upgrade
Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
Dependency Tree... 86%Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  ark arts artsbuilder debconf kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder 
  kasteroids kate kaudiocreator kbackgammon kcontrol kdeartwork-style 
  kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin 
  kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia 
  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdeprint
  kdesktop 
  kdf kdm kfind kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager khelpcenter kicker
  klipper 
  kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid kmix knode knotes konqueror 
  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kopete kpackage kpager kpersonalizer
  kppp 
  krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd
  ksysv 
  ktip kwin libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib 
  libarts1-xine libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libnspr4 libnss3 
  libpaperg libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev mozilla-browser mozilla-psm 
  mpeglib noatun qt3-dev-tools quanta snmp x-window-system-core 
  xbase-clients xlibmesa-gl-dev xlibmesa-glu-dev xlibmesa3 xlibs
  xlibs-dev 
  xterm 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  imlib-base kde-i18n-engb kdeartwork-misc kdebase-data kdelibs4-doc 
  lbxproxy libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libdps1 libfreetype6
  libfreetype6-dev 
  libmimelib1 libsnmp-base libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml2
  libxslt1 
  proxymngr twm x-window-system xdm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
  xfonts-base 
  xfonts-konsole xfonts-scalable xfree86-common xfs xfwp xlibmesa-dev
  xnest 
  xprt xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xspecs xutils xvfb 
38 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 91 not
upgraded.
Need to get 54.4MB of archives. After unpacking 43.2MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] Abort.

# aptitude -s dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
Dependency Tree... 84%Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
  libsnmp5 libxrender1 xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-glu 
The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
  abiword abiword-common abiword-gtk abiword-plugins adduser ark arts 
  artsbuilder base-config bonobo bsdmainutils console-common
  console-data 
  console-tools cvs diald dpkg-dev efax enscript fetchmail
  fetchmail-common 
  freeswan gcc-3.0 gdm gnome-applets gnome-panel gnome-panel-data 
  gnome-session gnome-utils gs gs-common guarddog gv htdig ipchains
  ipmenu 
  iptables kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder karbon kasteroids
  kate 
  kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbear kcd kchart kcontrol kde-theme-liquid
  kdeartwork-style kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia 
  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepim-libs 
  kdeprint kdesktop kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdm kernel-package 
  kernel-source-2.4.18 kfind kformula kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager
  khelpcenter kicker kit kivio klipper kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid
  kmidi 
  kmix kmyfirewall knode knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror 
  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontour kopete koshell kpackage kpager 
  kpersonalizer kppp kpresenter krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver
  ksplash kspread ksysguard ksysv ktip kugar kwin kword kxconfig
  leafnode 
  less lftp libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib 
  libarts1-xine libglide3 libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data 
  libgnomeprint15 libgtkhtml20 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 
  libpaperg libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev localeconf locales magicfilter
  man-db 
  mirrormagic modconf mozilla-browser mozilla-psm mpeglib
  msttcorefonts 
  mysql-server nas-dev nas-lib netbase noatun ntpdate pidentd poster
  ppp 
  pppconfig pppoe pppoeconf psfontmgr psutils qt3-dev-tools quanta
  samba 
  samba-common smbclient smbfs ssh swat telnetd whiptail wvdial 
  x-ttcidfont-conf x-window-system x-window-system-core xaw3dg xdm 
  xlibmesa3-gl xlibmesa3-glu xlibs-pic xnest xpdf xpdf-reader
  xpdf-utils 
  xprt xprt-common xserver-common xserver-xfree86 
The following packages have been kept back:
  debconf xbase-clients xlibs xlibs-dev xterm 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libsnmp5 libxrender1 xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-glu 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  abiword abiword-common abiword-gtk abiword-plugins adduser ark arts 
  artsbuilder base-config bonobo bsdmainutils console-common
  console-data 
  console-tools cvs diald dpkg-dev efax enscript fetchmail
  fetchmail-common 
  freeswan gcc-3.0 gdm gnome-applets gnome-panel gnome-panel-data 
  gnome-session gnome-utils gs gs-common guarddog gv htdig ipchains
  ipmenu 
  iptables kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder karbon kasteroids
  kate 
  kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbear kcd kchart kcontrol kde-theme-liquid
  kdeartwork-style kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia 
  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepim-libs 
  kdeprint kdesktop kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdm kernel-package 
  kernel-source-2.4.18 kfind kformula kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager
  khelpcenter kicker kit kivio klipper kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid
  kmidi 
  kmix kmyfirewall knode knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror 
  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontour kopete koshell kpackage kpager 
  kpersonalizer kppp kpresenter krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver
  ksplash kspread ksysguard ksysv ktip kugar kwin kword kxconfig
  leafnode 
  less lftp libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib 
  libarts1-xine libglide3 libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data 
  libgnomeprint15 libgtkhtml20 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 
  libpaperg libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev localeconf locales magicfilter
  man-db 
  mirrormagic modconf mozilla-browser mozilla-psm mpeglib
  msttcorefonts 
  mysql-server nas-dev nas-lib netbase noatun ntpdate pidentd poster
  ppp 
  pppconfig pppoe pppoeconf psfontmgr psutils qt3-dev-tools quanta
  samba 
  samba-common smbclient smbfs ssh swat telnetd whiptail wvdial 
  x-ttcidfont-conf x-window-system x-window-system-core xaw3dg xdm 
  xlibmesa3-gl xlibmesa3-glu xlibs-pic xnest xpdf xpdf-reader
  xpdf-utils 
  xprt xprt-common xserver-common xserver-xfree86 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  imlib-base kde-i18n-engb kdeartwork-misc kdebase-data kdelibs-data 
  kdelibs4-doc ksysguardd lbxproxy libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libdps1 
  libfreetype6 libfreetype6-dev libmimelib1 libnspr4 libnss3
  libqt3-headers 
  libsnmp-base libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml2 libxslt1 proxymngr
  snmp 
  twm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-konsole
  xfonts-scalable 
  xfree86-common xfs xfwp xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa-gl-dev
  xlibmesa-glu-dev 
  xlibmesa3 xspecs xutils xvfb 
41 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 188 to remove and 5 not
upgraded.
Need to get 56.6MB of archives. After unpacking 382MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] Abort.
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disclaimer: I'm just a user, not a developer.  I use Woody cause I
don't have the time or the knowledge ro wrangle with unstable.

PS: I could post the apt-get output if anyone thought it would be
useful.

Cheers,

Nick Boyce
Bristol, UK
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