I just reported this on bugs.kde.org ( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62735 ). To summarize, I can't get artscontrol to startup at all. It just crashes on me. I use the suspend-arts-server feature all the time. Has anyone else had this problem? Rene -- rhorn@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org