On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:15:13PM +0200, Frank Van Damme wrote: > On Wednesday 09 April 2003 09:22, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Umm, it's still about $au60-80; people often don't have that money to > > spare. My AthlonXP 2400+ is a direct upgrade from the PII 350, which I > > had for ages. > > Oh gosh, here we go again, a member of the "hardware is so cheap today" > school. Certain companies in Silicon Valley have been funding members of that > school for ages (after all it takes lots of manhours to write enough code for > an OS that takes up 100 megs). I upgraded my pentium a while ago (correction: > I replaced a faulty memory chip with a working one) from 48 to 80 megs. > Costed me 25 euro, and that was a bargain. Normally I'd buy a lot more for " > banks of 32 megs. Um, I'm not a "hardware is so cheap today" guy. I've spent most of the thread pointing out why saying "hardware's cheap, go buy it" is a ridiculous assertion. > Yes I am talking about EDO ram of course! ever tried putting SDram into a > pentium 1? There are parts of the world where people earn the equivalent of > 0.25 euros an hour. That means 2 weeks of work for my cheap 2 sticks of > memory. Yeah, exactly. Or maybe you're studying and don't work. Or maybe you're studying and work only just pays the bills. Or maybe you're unemployed. Or maybe your area has high living costs ... there are a great deal of reasons why telling everyone to buy better hardware is absolutely the wrong thing to say. > > 128mb, as I have repeatedly stated, works. I'll drag the PII back out to > > prove a point, in fact. Hell, it even works fine on my P233MMX laptop, > > complete with 48mb of RAM. Disable klipper, chown .ICE-unix, disable > > kwrited, disable kalarmd, and you've got an entirely usable system on a > > low-end machine. > > Just tried the ice-unix trick and it helps a great deal. It's nifty. :) > > My sister has 32mb. Again, works, but isn't the greatest. > > I found 48 megs horrible under win98. Depends what you put there. I spent a lot of time tuning her machine to get it halfway to usable. > > The point is that your figures of 256mb are extremely irresponsible, > > considering users respect you somewhat for your packaging, and I'd > > prefer you either checked your facts with a program you knew not to be > > incorrect, or just left it alone. It runs fine on anything from 64mb > > upwards, and even on 48mb, if you tune it a bit. > > On such a machine I never run the DE besides, only applications on top of, > say, Windowmaker. Well, you can, just try a few things: * .ICE-unix * disable klipper, kwrited and korgac * generally disable stuff you don't use * schedule cron jobs for 4am -- Daniel Stone <daniel@raging.dropbear.id.au> <dstone@kde.org> KDE: Konquering a desktop near you - http://www.kde.org
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