no matter what I do with the applnks dir it'll break kicker. kicker hardcodes the paths to the desktop files....what a waste of kstddirs. :) -- ---------------- Ivan E. Moore II rkrusty@tdyc.com http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD