Sorry to ask such a newbie question, but how do I get KDE to start as the default system window manager? It's been working fine for weeks, and then after an upgrade a few days ago it has gone back to a blank grey twm desktop when I log in ... :-( Thanks -- Nick Smith, Webmaster, Climbers.Net UK. http://www.climbers.net/ Low-cost Internet services for the climbing and outdoor pursuits industry