good news...I know what's wrong... now to just find out exactly where it's breaking...I'm doing a build right now that I believe will fix it and thus not require a konq window to be open prior to opening khelpcenter... cross your fingers Ivan -- ---------------- Ivan E. Moore II rkrusty@tdyc.com http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD