ok..you stated that khelpcenter is working for you??? or did I read that wrong..ie with your builds... -- ---------------- Ivan E. Moore II rkrusty@tdyc.com http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD