Thibaut VARENE wrote:
> Though I won't deny the port has been coasting, I don't see why or how
> it's been rotting. As I pointed out, the archive is built up to
> unprecedented levels and we don't have any major breakage I'm aware
> of. ISTR we have had bigger trouble in the past.
The most major issue I'm aware of is that aptitude will hang (no longer
responds to key input) after it returns from installing packages: #434861.
This seems to be a threading issue, so could be related to what Aurelien
Jarno mentioned about linuxthreads in another post.
It would be great if someone could look into that. Note that the issue on
hppa is somewhat different from other arches as for other arches it is
fixed with newer kernel versions.
> The point I do not agree with, though, is the idea that support for the
> port should be dropped just because it seems nobody cares.
OTOH, it does really suck that the buildds are frequently unreliable [1] and
that nobody seems to take responsibility for getting the porter machines
back up.
Having an arch fall behind for longer periods is one of the best ways to get
release managers and DDs in general to start thinking about dropping the
port. If nobody who is directly involved with the port cares, then why the
hell should others care?
As most of you probably know I do the basic work to keep the installer
working on hppa, but the total lack of interest from anybody else is
sometimes demotivating. Properly maintaining the installer _does_ require
more architecture-specific knowledge than I have!
Examples:
- Kyle promised a few times to look into what modules should be included for
the installer for current kernels, but that never happened. I've gotten
tired of pinging him about that.
- The hppa bus is one of the few classes of hardware for which modules are
not being autoloaded. I've heard that was being worked on at some point,
but AFAIK that never got submitted upstream.
Cheers,
FJP
[1] There was a 2-month period when hppa was below 90% and was seriously
blocking migration of packages (~ week 14-22):
http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-quarter-big.png
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